Where is all the content?

[Theox]

I swear to god they better release something really big to compensate for the lack of content on EW release. Right now if you're not a raider or a crafter/gatherer there's literally nothing to do in the game besides completing older content which is fine but also not for everyone.

How about we get new deep dungeon, new relic weapons, new land for housing they were hinting at on top of other new content that we don't know about yet? That'd be cute.

[TaleraRistain]

How about we get new deep dungeon, new relic weapons, new land for housing they were hinting at on top of other new content that we don't know about yet? That'd be cute.

Those things are never released this early in the new expansion cycle. We will almost certainly get new relic weapons with or without zones like Eureka or Bozja. But the first of those patches is still a ways off if they stick to their normal schedules.

[raelgun]

Those things are never released this early in the new expansion cycle. We will almost certainly get new relic weapons with or without zones like Eureka or Bozja. But the first of those patches is still a ways off if they stick to their normal schedules.

2.0 released its relic quest line from launch...

released with the 3 HM trials
love it or hate it, 2 trials (castrum and praetorium)
couple of max level dungeons
more in depth crafting compared to now

We now get no relic quest line on launch

2 ex trials
no equivalent to castrum or prae
only 2 additional dungeons to the story ones (makes a change, see how this goes)

[Kaurhz]

2.0 released its relic quest line from launch...

released with the 3 HM trials
love it or hate it, 2 trials (castrum and praetorium)
couple of max level dungeons
more in depth crafting compared to now

We now get no relic quest line on launch

2 ex trials
no equivalent to castrum or prae
only 2 additional dungeons to the story ones (makes a change, see how this goes)

This is the poorest argument I've ever seen. The simplified crafting is as a direct result of the feedback or distaste that people had for how complex or annoying the system once was. They didn't just suddenly wake up and think they need to dumb down the system.

No single expansion has had relics released on the launch of the expansion. Not Heavensward, nor Stormblood, nor Shadowbringers, and neither this. It's a pretty common trend of every expansion for the past 6 years, as is everything you highlighted. Speaking of, why are you comparing a base game to an expansion..??

[Velnora]

This is the poorest argument I've ever seen. The simplified crafting is as a direct result of the feedback or distaste that people had for how complex or annoying the system once was. They didn't just suddenly wake up and think they need to dumb down the system.

No single expansion has had relics released on the launch of the expansion. Not Heavensward, nor Stormblood, nor Shadowbringers, and neither this. It's a pretty common trend of every expansion for the past 6 years, as is everything you highlighted. Speaking of, why are you comparing a base game to an expansion..??

The system wasn't complex. People just macro'ed everything. This isn't what people ask for. Look at healers.

[Kaurhz]

The system wasn't complex. People just macro'ed everything. This isn't what people ask for. Look at healers.

You can argue that as much as you like but I'm pretty sure the vast majority of players and the action carried out as a result would suggest otherwise. In any circumstance my point was that their complaint or criticism was a direct result of community feedback. Besides, let's face the fact. It took more effort for them to redo the system into what it is today than for them to just leave things as they were.

[Komarimono]

2.0 released its relic quest line from launch...

released with the 3 HM trials
love it or hate it, 2 trials (castrum and praetorium)
couple of max level dungeons
more in depth crafting compared to now

We now get no relic quest line on launch

2 ex trials
no equivalent to castrum or prae
only 2 additional dungeons to the story ones (makes a change, see how this goes)

Well for one, they specified expansion cycle, not re-launch to save the game. Two, no one wanted another Prae or Castrum I am sure, not sure how you consider that content though since just a story dungeon experience. Crafting being made better is not making it less in depth. The fact that Inner Quiet change went through I doubt people are truly complaining about...

[TaleraRistain]

2.0 released its relic quest line from launch...

Not according to the wiki. It was 2.2. Anima was 3.15, Eurekan were 4.25 and Resistance were 5.25.

[Kes13a]

Not according to the wiki. It was 2.2. Anima was 3.15, Eurekan were 4.25 and Resistance were 5.25.

oh hey, facts... thinking they'll call you a white knight or SE shill now...

how dare you contradict them with verifiable information...

[Vrankyl]

2.0 released its relic quest line from launch...

released with the 3 HM trials
love it or hate it, 2 trials (castrum and praetorium)
couple of max level dungeons
more in depth crafting compared to now

We now get no relic quest line on launch

2 ex trials
no equivalent to castrum or prae
only 2 additional dungeons to the story ones (makes a change, see how this goes)

And with 2.0 most of this was stuff that was already pre-developed for 1.0 and was able to be finished off for the launch. Comparing an expac to what is essentially the base game is just ridiculous.

Ever since HW at launch we've gotten 2 NM Trials, 2 EX trials, NM Raid, Savage Raid, and a few max level dungeons. And while mid expac max level dungeons have decreased we've always had three new max level dungeons, 1 story and 2 side. HW also started the trend of Relic coming after launch, and while it did come out earlier than with StB and ShB that's likely to do with the fact that the HW relic didn't get it's own system and zone dedicated to it.

As far as the comment about Deep Dungeons. PotD and HoH were not in at release, they came in with 3.3 and 4.3 (HoH I am not 100% sure on, but I believe it was 4.3. It definitely wasn't launch). However, they have also started they have nixed that and the Bozja like stuff will be the norm going forward for additional job leveling areas. To replace that they have hinted many times at new 4 man content for EW, but again not at launch so we'll have to see. We can judge at the time it is or isn't added.