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    FFXIV is boring by design. Its content is timegated so that people can progress at their own pace and no one falls behind. The director said to unsubscribe if you are bored because there isn't enough content to keep a player active throughout its entire duration. Endwalker has $40 worth of cutscenes and the occasional dungeon, it's not the greatest cinematic experience of all time but it's something decent to hold the average person over until endgame. Then there's roughly $13 of content each month in repeatable instances and raids. That's basically it. FFXIV isn't an all-encompassing social experience like WoW or many other games in that endeavor, and I don't believe Square Enix ever intended for it to be.

    Remember, when S.E. made ARR, they were just trying to patch a hole in the numbered Final Fantasy series. They didn't want their fourteenth entry to stand out as being particularly horrible, so they fixed it up real quick. And since it was a success, they put out expansions to eke out a little bit more from that. And to be fair, we are getting the usual Final Fantasy experience with this game. We have an epic story, villains and heroes, tons of customization, and some longevity with its multiplayer. It's worth the money, just not all the time. You wouldn't play FFXIII and its sequels every day since its release, so I don't think FFXIV was intended to be much different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    FFXIV is boring by design. Its content is timegated so that people can progress at their own pace and no one falls behind. The director said to unsubscribe if you are bored because there isn't enough content to keep a player active throughout its entire duration. Endwalker has $40 worth of cutscenes and the occasional dungeon, it's not the greatest cinematic experience of all time but it's something decent to hold the average person over until endgame. Then there's roughly $13 of content each month in repeatable instances and raids. That's basically it. FFXIV isn't an all-encompassing social experience like WoW or many other games in that endeavor, and I don't believe Square Enix ever intended for it to be.

    Remember, when S.E. made ARR, they were just trying to patch a hole in the numbered Final Fantasy series. They didn't want their fourteenth entry to stand out as being particularly horrible, so they fixed it up real quick. And since it was a success, they put out expansions to eke out a little bit more from that. And to be fair, we are getting the usual Final Fantasy experience with this game. We have an epic story, villains and heroes, tons of customization, and some longevity with its multiplayer. It's worth the money, just not all the time. You wouldn't play FFXIII and its sequels every day since its release, so I don't think FFXIV was intended to be much different.
    thanks, your post made me laugh, brightened my evening considerably. especially WoW being an "all encompassing social experience". I guess you are right though, it brings the unpaid work experience and daily grind to a computer near you.. how is that social though?
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    Where was the cute animal crossing/farming land they demonstrated a few months ago?
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    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonwitch View Post
    Where was the cute animal crossing/farming land they demonstrated a few months ago?
    No solid release was given, but it's coming. 6.1 ish?
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    I swear to god they better release something really big to compensate for the lack of content on EW release. Right now if you're not a raider or a crafter/gatherer there's literally nothing to do in the game besides completing older content which is fine but also not for everyone.

    How about we get new deep dungeon, new relic weapons, new land for housing they were hinting at on top of other new content that we don't know about yet? That'd be cute.
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    This thread is a prime example of why most game developers ignore general discussion forums.
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    It's really telling who has actually played this game during an expansion launch before and who hasn't tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    thanks, your post made me laugh, brightened my evening considerably. especially WoW being an "all encompassing social experience". I guess you are right though, it brings the unpaid work experience and daily grind to a computer near you.. how is that social though?
    They literally said that FFXIV isn't a bad experience, I don't know why you're so triggered about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    They literally said that FFXIV isn't a bad experience, I don't know why you're so triggered about this.
    not "triggered" at all.

    I just laughed at WoW being described as an "all encompassing social experience"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    not "triggered" at all.

    I just laughed at WoW being described as an "all encompassing social experience"
    That's like... an opinion though. I have plenty of friends that LOVE FFXIV but prefer the social experience WoW offered as well. I never played WoW, but I do agree that others MMOs I played were better in that regard. Idk why someone liking an aspect of another game made you screech tbh.
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