So you're telling me..

[ZiraZ]

However, theres also no reason a class with dps buffs (purely talking dps buffs) can't offer equal raid dps compared to a "selfish" class, if anything if a class with raid dps buffs didn't actually offer higher RAID dps than the selfish class than having raid dps buffs in the first place would be a detriment. why use a class that does 10k and buffs the group for 500 if you can just take a class that does 11k by itself ?

That's fine the problem is when utility exists and the jobs with utility are still over the ones with zero utility, on the surface jobs like reaper and sam should do similar rDPS but then there should be an utility tax on top of that because reaper can shield themselves and heal the party, even after it's 50% nerf (lol) it's extremely good regardless of whatever the clowns in this forum say, I mean it's pretty obvious the ninja community has agreed there is absolutely no point in playing that job and it's basically dead in the water now, like I don't remember a job being this dead for this long now even after a small redesign patch, why play something that offers nothing and complexity that is heavily punished when you could instead play the autopilot job that has a better shade shift that heals the raid?

[Kazimere]

That's fine the problem is when utility exists and the jobs with utility are still over the ones with zero utility, on the surface jobs like reaper and sam should do similar rDPS but then there should be an utility tax on top of that because reaper can shield themselves and heal the party, even after it's 50% nerf (lol) it's extremely good regardless of whatever the clowns in this forum say, I mean it's pretty obvious the ninja community has agreed there is absolutely no point in playing that job and it's basically dead in the water now, like I don't remember a job being this dead for this long now even after a small redesign patch, why play something that offers nothing and complexity that is heavily punished when you could instead play the autopilot job that has a better shade shift that heals the raid?

So give the rest of the melee something. You're argument is weak. You're basically saying that Reaper should do the lowest because it's got a 250p regen for the group and the rest don't. Ain't no one bringing a Reaper to the raid for their shield. It's a cherry on top.

In the end, you're salty and butt hurt. We get it.

[ZiraZ]

So give the rest of the melee something. You're argument is weak. You're basically saying that Reaper should do the lowest because it's got a 250p regen for the group and the rest don't. Ain't no one bringing a Reaper to the raid for their shield. It's a cherry on top.

In the end, you're salty and butt hurt. We get it.

I think the argument is sound, 40 pages seem to represent I'm not the only one that thinks it's unfair and I may be salty but at least I'm not liar and an obfuscator .

[Kazimere]

I think the argument is sound, 40 pages seem to represent I'm not the only one that thinks it's unfair and I may be salty but at least I'm not liar and an obfuscator .

You're just going to keep running your mouth aren't you? That's the internet for you. For the record, a consensus don't make it right. Like really, are you trying to appeal to the masses as your justification? The masses used to be sure that the earth was flat at one time too. How'd that work out?

You're arguing that Reaper is over tuned. I provided you numbers that refute that. You then completely ignore the numbers and opt to move the goal post. So tell me, what percentage should Reaper drop because of this game breaking defensive that Reaper has?

[ZiraZ]

The masses used to be sure that the earth was flat at one time too. How'd that work out?

so just like the reaper masses saying AC was not overpowered, how'd that work out?

You're arguing that Reaper is over tuned. I provided you numbers that refute that. You then completely ignore the numbers and opt to move the goal post. So tell me, what percentage should Reaper drop because of this game breaking defensive that Reaper has?

No you haven't, you just compared reaper with monk which is also overtuned and called it balanced, then you compared it with sam and ignored the fact reaper can heal the raid.

[Kazimere]

so just like the reaper masses saying AC was not overpowered, how'd that work out?


No you haven't, you just compared reaper with monk which is also over tuned and called it balanced, then you compared it with sam and ignored the fact reaper can heal the raid.

The fuck I did. I didn't even run numbers for monk. I ran them for reaper and samurai. Go look at the damn numbers yourself. I'm not providing them to you. You are like a broken record. You just can't come off the defensive.

If all you have is my defense of AC being balanced to hold you, you're just noise at this point. I literally told you I was trolling you on multiple occasions. How much more clear do I need to be on that? I get it, I hurt your feelings. Get over it.

[ZiraZ]

I literally told you I was trolling you on multiple occasions.

"It doesn't count as a lie if I say it was trolling"
ok liar

[Maverick_Haas]

I think the argument is sound, 40 pages seem to represent I'm not the only one that thinks it's unfair and I may be salty but at least I'm not liar and an obfuscator .

This you?
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5780917

[ZiraZ]

This you?
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5780917

oh hey you're other guy that trolled about AC was not broken for over 20 pages before it took a 50% nerf and then made a 3 full posts explaining how reaper is the hardest job in history

[Maverick_Haas]

oh hey you're other guy that trolled about AC was not broken for over 20 pages before it took a 50% nerf and then made a 3 full posts explaining how reaper is the hardest job in history

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https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5780848

But if you compare RPR with other DPS, notably DNC, it certainly does look like Crest is overtuned. I suspect either DNC will get a buff or RPR will see a slight nerf, probably 100 -> 50 potency if I had to guess.

Uno reverse card

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This You? Again?
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5786144

Weren't you the one that thought AC was a single 100 potency heal and didn't know how damage/heal over time spells worked and said it "MNK's mantra is equal if not absolutely better than Arcane Crest" back in page 11 while defending AC as perfectly balanced utility?
he clearly made a typo and a 10 second search reveals he plays reaper

I literally called the nerf and it came true, yet I'm completely biased.

At least I have the integrity to admit when I'm wrong and apologize with humility. You can't even admit you lied and obscured what I actually said about tuning. A simple my bad is all you needed to say and we could have had a civil discussion.