Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
Given the nature of the summoning of Shiva, I don't think that will ever be one we summon. But also, there's jut not much point to adding three more summons to follow Phoenix if they're effectively the same except different animations.
They could absolutely use shiva as well. There is an entity known as shiva who isn't tied to Ysayle and this is all summons have ever needed, just someone to believe in them. Even Ryne was able to summon shiva using a second hand account and enough aether to force it into being.