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  1. #1781
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    It explains it all ! You don't believe me ? Prove me it's wrong then. Prove me that they didn't lose the actual EW Dark knight updates and forgot all about their competence and skills until the last minute.
    Living Dead still sucks.

    No self-sustain options.

    Enhanced Unmend.

    Enhanced Living Shadow.

    DRK still shares Delirium with IR.

    Salted Earth.. uh, yeah.

    Remove iconic animations.

    No charges to Bloodweapon.

    Lastly, they received a tremendous amount of decent feedback in case they were unable to incorporate better ideas. What more evidence do you need? Paladin literally has a 3-set combo which looks fancy. DRK received the most lazy amount of effort you could possibly deliever. If all of this is not enough to convince you then keep believing. I have been a very loyal player regarding DRK. I reserve my judgement for future improvements but I wouldn't be so sure it will ever happen. At least not in a meaningful way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin96 View Post
    Who are you then to disprove it?
    Yeah this is not how logic works. You can't come up with any hearsay nonsense and place the burden of proof on everyone else.
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    This just proves that dark knight is poorly designed and doesn't get attention. Which nobody is denying.
    This doesn't mean that every dev working on the jobs decided to sabotage that specific job because they didn't like a previous colleague. And that the game's director either doesn't know about it, or is ok with it.
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  4. #1784
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    Yeah this is not how logic works. You can't come up with any hearsay nonsense and place the burden of proof on everyone else.
    I literally provided proof above. They gave every other tank every bit of love except DRK. For me, this simply is sabotaging their work. The end result is they have no interest in giving this job the attention it needs.

    You guys are getting upset because your conception of the developers is shaking right now. Good. Maybe next time, don't give good faith to a company that repeatedly screws you over with little interest in discourse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    This just proves that dark knight is poorly designed and doesn't get attention. Which nobody is denying.
    This doesn't mean that every dev working on the jobs decided to sabotage that specific job because they didn't like a previous colleague. And that the game's director either doesn't know about it, or is ok with it.
    But why is it not getting any attention? Sabotage is the logical conclusion when you withdraw attention and resources from a job. If their priority lied by giving DRK its essentials we wouldn't have this mess of a job now.

    I personally believe it's pure mallace, because Salt and Darkness and Enhanced Unmend sounds like they're mocking us.
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  6. #1786
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin96 View Post
    I literally provided proof above. They gave every other tank every bit of love except DRK. For me, this simply is sabotaging their work. The end result is they have no interest in giving this job the attention it needs.

    You guys are getting upset because your conception of the developers is shaking right now. Good. Maybe next time, don't give good faith to a company that repeatedly screws you over with little interest in discourse.
    That's not proof, that's quite literally a leap of logic. A hypothetical explanation for the problem doesn't prove the explanation is correct.
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  7. #1787
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    You are making massive leaps.
    "Drk is in a terrible state"
    Ok.
    "It is the devs deliberatly sabotaging their own game"

    Or, it could be:
    Devs focused on other jobs needing a lot of work (posterboy, SMN rework, Monk, the new jobs) and left DRK aside 'cause it had a fancy rework last expansion. Quality aside.
    They might also just have no idea what to do with it, consider that a rework is necessary but don't have time for it, so just leave it as is for now. Yes it sucks.

    You just want it to be "sabotage" because this gives you a nice black and white version of the story. The devs are evil, you are a victim. Yaddi Yaddi Yadda.

    We all aggree that DRK is in a terrible state and needs a lot of work, but you litteraly do not bring anything interresting to the conversation with your conspiracies. Bring actual proof, like messages from devs from in-house chats about how they hate X guy. Or you know, actual proof that they hate DRK.
    You're just drawing conclusions out of your butt because you're unhappy and want to make sense of the situation in a neat and tiddy way.
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  8. #1788
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    That's not proof, that's quite literally a leap of logic. A hypothetical explanation for the problem doesn't prove the explanation is correct.
    I guess if the truth slapped you right across the face it wouldn't count. That was putting one and one together. What else would lead them to ignore part of their playerbase?

    It's so cute how you guys are hanging on this tiny shred regarding intentional mallace on part of the developers, yet ignoring the fact they have no interest to improve this job regardless of criticism. The outcome is the same.
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    I think it's better if we just ignore you. Stay in your own little world where you are the only smart kid and everyone else but you is stupid.

    We honestly shouldn't have kept this going for so long.
    Remeber there is a blocking function so we don't have to do this again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    You are making massive leaps.
    "Drk is in a terrible state"
    Ok.
    "It is the devs deliberatly sabotaging their own game"

    Or, it could be:
    Devs focused on other jobs needing a lot of work (posterboy, SMN rework, Monk, the new jobs) and left DRK aside 'cause it had a fancy rework last expansion. Quality aside.
    They might also just have no idea what to do with it, consider that a rework is necessary but don't have time for it, so just leave it as is for now. Yes it sucks.

    You just want it to be "sabotage" because this gives you a nice black and white version of the story. The devs are evil, you are a victim. Yaddi Yaddi Yadda.

    We all aggree that DRK is in a terrible state and needs a lot of work, but you litteraly do not bring anything interresting to the conversation with your conspiracies. Bring actual proof, like messages from devs from in-house chats about how they hate X guy. Or you know, actual proof that they hate DRK.
    You're just drawing conclusions out of your butt because you're unhappy and want to make sense of the situation in a neat and tiddy way.
    No one said I was the victim and no one said they are evil. You are quite literally turning this debate into a black and white issue.

    They don't care. They are absolutely sabotaging this job by intentionally ignoring massive flaws we put out there for years.

    We'll see. I suppose we have another 2 years to go to show wether or not this is deliberate incompetence or just simply them hating this job and putting it on the low priority list.
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