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    Quote Originally Posted by Denishia View Post
    Alpha didn't hold conversations with us and didn't have a soul at first. Like Omega, the Ancients would have seen no problem in unmaking him.

    And it was doing both the MSQ and various side-quests in Elpis, where we as the WoL are treated as a thing, that stuck in my craw. Do they have zero regard for life? No, but I don't like their standards for it, and I think Alisaie's retort to the Garlean philosophy about 'What if we don't live up to your standards of perfection/we all have a stake in this world' is actually a retort towards the Ancients of Elpis as much as it is towards the Garleans. Same with the Scions distaste for the Forum deciding who got to load into the Ragnarok and who didn't.
    We were treated as a thing because we were regarded as a familiar and we ourselves were going along with that to make things go swimmingly. Despite being a familiar or a “thing” as you want to put it, they still treat us with kindness. They take us on tours, they express concern when they think we might dissipate or disappear. They even hold ceremonies for the creations they get rid of. I don’t under at and how much more you want them to do. You don’t hold a ceremony everytime you kill a fly do you? They at the very least did that. And i’d say given how long they lasted, they were doing a pretty good job at their whole goal, aka preservation of the stari.n regards to the creation things as well, lets not forget that we literally use something similar to creation magicks in Eden, we summon primals who have a will and could hold a conversation with us, and we summon them just to kill them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slatersev View Post
    Not all of them, some get really annoyed at your presence, others ask you to risk yourself in combat and are explicitly fine with it if you die. One even asks to make sure you let the monster kill you if it comes to that because its more valuable then you.
    Yes because in the end we are a familiar, we are treated as a familiar, where while they do respect us, we are essentially expendable. Just like how we see porxie familiars get used and destroyed without a second thought in some of the il mheg quests. But a majority of them treat us well, and imo that sets them far apart from just not having any regards to lives like people think.I really dont see how the sundered are any better in this regard either as a majority of the time we are used as a weapon for people to point us at.
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    Last edited by KizuyaKatogami; 01-01-2022 at 07:29 AM.