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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    We were treated as a thing because we were regarded as a familiar and we ourselves were going along with that to make things go swimmingly. Despite being a familiar or a “thing” as you want to put it, they still treat us with kindness. They take us on tours, they express concern when they think we might dissipate or disappear. They even hold ceremonies for the creations they get rid of. I don’t under at and how much more you want them to do. You don’t hold a ceremony everytime you kill a fly do you? They at the very least did that. And i’d say given how long they lasted, they were doing a pretty good job at their whole goal, aka preservation of the star.
    Not all of them, some get really annoyed at your presence, others ask you to risk yourself in combat and are explicitly fine with it if you die. One even asks to make sure you let the monster kill you if it comes to that because its more valuable then you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slatersev View Post
    Not all of them, some get really annoyed at your presence, others ask you to risk yourself in combat and are explicitly fine with it if you die. One even asks to make sure you let the monster kill you if it comes to that because its more valuable then you.
    And how is this different from how the modern, sundered world treats us? It's even worse for them because in a lot of cases we literally save them and still several people treat us poorly. It's a major aspect of the DRK 30-50 questline actually.

    Coming from the perspective of Emet claiming they're "perfect" then yeah things like that are clearly a point against them but some of the standards used on the ancients, not even the sundered would pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnetiferous View Post
    And how is this different from how the modern, sundered world treats us? It's even worse for them because in a lot of cases we literally save them and still several people treat us poorly. It's a major aspect of the DRK 30-50 questline actually.

    Coming from the perspective of Emet claiming they're "perfect" then yeah things like that are clearly a point against them but some of the standards used on the ancients, not even the sundered would pass.
    Oh, no that's exactly my point the way they treat us isn't noticeably better then random sundered Sidequest givers. Which is fine, doesn't make them evil but them not being noticeably better then Sundered about it goes back to Emet's justification being really flawed on its face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slatersev View Post
    Oh, no that's exactly my point the way they treat us isn't noticeably better then random sundered Sidequest givers. Which is fine, doesn't make them evil but them not being noticeably better then Sundered about it goes back to Emet's justification being really flawed on its face.
    Fair enough then.

    I think with Emet-Selch, he knew for a very long time that he was wrong but was so overcome by grief and sorrow that no matter what he did, he couldn't accept it. And one of the tales from the shadow, he did almost give up the whole rejoining thing. The line about the Ancient society being perfect, well, of course, he thinks that, his society was indeed perfect for him. Like a pair of the ultimate rose-colored glasses. So yeah, clearly he's bias.
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