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    YP said difficulty has no bearing on performance.
    I believe that if Reaper is too strong, it needs a nerf, but just because it's "too easy", that's not a reason.

    Tanks would heal mobs if they'd balance it that way
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shironeko_Narunyan View Post
    YP said difficulty has no bearing on performance.
    I believe that if Reaper is too strong, it needs a nerf, but just because it's "too easy", that's not a reason.

    Tanks would heal mobs if they'd balance it that way
    Who cares about stuff what Yoshi said?

    Things change and he´s in the position to claim whatever the majority wants to hear. And of course the casual majority don´t want to hear that the easy picks lack behind if you perform well. On top i do even highly doubt that he has much to do with balancing. There are teams for different stuff and as director you don´t sit there and start to program everything on your own. You sit there and choose the right ppl for the needed jobs, meanwhile you need to justify any costs and timings about the game. Of course you gonna do some quality-checks, but it´s not possible to keep everything tracked alone in a big game like this. You don´t develop in the first case, you coordinate, you decide and you´re the representative for us players and for the investors.

    And if we take that statement serious, what´s the point in RDPS classes lacking behind then? Those 10% mitigation you need in 1% of the whole content? Why does RDM or MNK aren´t on their level then in kind of utility?
    Or is it, because they´re able to clear trash faster with aoe spam? Have you seen what melees are able to do with their aoe´s now?

    Unless ACT measurements are completely broken in kind of RDPS-classes, the only justified reason, why they lack behind, would be "easy to execute".

    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick_Haas View Post
    I dunno, why haven't we seen a difficult to play utility class/job? Or a hard to play tank? I suppose healers can have some difficulty to them, but anytime difficulty comes up it's always about DPS.
    I would like to see it and i think we had some, more or less. But well... homogenization and simplification happened again and again for the sake of "balancing", to cater ppl who disliked whole class-identities, to make everything "more accessible", to safe money and time. This game lost more than enough over its years to be safe to say, that the devs are completely incompetent in kind of gameplay or just don´t care anymore.

    I´m not saying, that they don´t do their job correctly. But they took any unique aspects of the game and threw them into the bin more and more with each patch. No matter if we talk about buffs / debuffs, tanks, healers, DPS, perfect rounded arenas,... way too much is gone which has been unique at a time. The latest aspect has been clearly MNK as positional-heavy class, which has been unique in any MMORPG. Or Nocturnal?!
    It´s not only the gameplay, it´s everything to safe time and efford. It´s just all about money and "graphics only" are obviously enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssunny2008 View Post
    Who cares about stuff what Yoshi said?
    Yoshi P is the director. I'm sorry but, what the director says goes. He will get suggestions if something he says goes against sane design practices, but if Yoshi says to make a class that only has 1 ability and does 1mil dps... Then they will make the class, or fire yoshi p. He doesn't have complete control over everything, but his word certainly goes a vary far way, especially considering he saved the MMO as a whole. So I'm willing believe that if YoshiP said classes will not be balanced by difficulty, then very good chance they will not.

    I don't know how it works in other industries, but in the software/games industry you give your recommendations to the director/producer/managers, but ultimately the decision to do a certain thing is up to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick_Haas View Post
    Yoshi P is the director. I'm sorry but, what the director says goes. He will get suggestions if something he says goes against sane design practices, but if Yoshi says to make a class that only has 1 ability and does 1mil dps... Then they will make the class, or fire yoshi p. He doesn't have complete control over everything, but his word certainly goes a vary far way, especially considering he saved the MMO as a whole. So I'm willing believe that if YoshiP said classes will not be balanced by difficulty, then very good chance they will not.

    I don't know how it works in other industries, but in the software/games industry you give your recommendations to the director/producer/managers, but ultimately the decision to do a certain thing is up to them.
    Yeah he has to make decisions, but it won´t sit there like "Man... this class needs 100 DPS more...". There is no time for fine-tuning is this job. He has his trusts for sure.

    And again, what´s the point in RDPS classes then, if it´s not the difficulty? That Yoshi is like "I don´t give af as long as my BLM is on top!" ???
    Without a range-tax, there is no reason that they should lack behind in the raiding scene, but they do for a long time now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xiaoki View Post
    Ranged Physical DPS have low DPS because they can attack from away and do not have cast times like the Caster Magic DPS, so they can move and shoot.

    It's not a good reason, especially with how mobility has changed over the years, but it is the reason.
    I would call it "easier to execute", "easier to play", choose whatever you want. So yeah, Yoshi is lieing if that´s the case, and i´m pretty sure, that everyone agree, that this is the case. There have been more than enough discussions about the range-tax.
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