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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I'm not against parsers in a void, but FFLogs existing as a permanent performance record that you can't escape from is aggravating.
    On the contrary, I actually loved this about the logs. Serves as a reminder where we used to be and/or how average consistency is the key rather than the extreme end of spectrum.

    Then again if somebody decides to selectively pull our less favorable records to berate, that actually says a lot more about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    On the contrary, I actually loved this about the logs. Serves as a reminder where we used to be and/or how average consistency is the key rather than the extreme end of spectrum.

    Then again if somebody decides to selectively pull our less favorable records to berate, that actually says a lot more about them.
    I like seeing growth throughout the tiers and expansions, personally. People that are actually worth their salt as raiders know what to look for when looking at current and past logs. They won’t cherry-pick someone’s grey logs where they died or their first clear log and use that as a metric for judgement. But I know that goes against the whole anti-parser/anti-logs narrative, so it’s never considered in these discussions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    On the contrary, I actually loved this about the logs. Serves as a reminder where we used to be and/or how average consistency is the key rather than the extreme end of spectrum.

    Then again if somebody decides to selectively pull our less favorable records to berate, that actually says a lot more about them.
    I think my main beef is that some people don't realize that the bulk of the playerbase does not actively parse/log, but will still take their average performance from inconsistent second-hand parses as a gospel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    I could be mistaken, but I made this exact complaint during Eden.
    Was sick of randoms uploading logs with my name on it.
    While I don't particularly care that my performance itself is public, what annoyed me was simply that in the random and fully uncontrolled environment that is Normal DF Raid Queue, there's no value in randomly uploading a parse from one.

    Apparently, if you create a login for FFlogs, you can claim a character as "yours" and privatise it, which blocks you from appearing in the statistics even if someone else uploads a log with you in it.

    I'm not about to go creating an account on a third party site and associating it in any way with my character, but supposedly that is the only way to prevent your name from appearing.
    The thing is if you do that, people will instead assume you're trying to hide bad performance and judge you anyways so you can't really win either way unless you're willing to actively grind out parse runs which will still inevitably be "not good enough" for someone out there if they aren't orange.

    Had multiple PFs back in Stormblood that straight up refused to queue into the instance until I unhid my performance, but thankfully I was "good enough" by their standards.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 12-31-2021 at 08:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    The thing is if you do that, people will instead assume you're trying to hide bad performance and judge you anyways so you can't really win either way unless you're willing to actively grind out parse runs which will still inevitably be "not good enough" for someone out there if they aren't orange.
    This may just be from being extremely lucky, but when I am asked why my logs are hidden I explain how I lived and died by Raider.IO. Just invoking the name made everyone go, "Ah, that's fair." The stress of having every single activity you do being actively logged whether you upload or not does some serious damage to the brain that I would rather not ever repeat.
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