Jobs and Class, I am nervous now.

[Jinrya-Geki]

people cried and cried about lack of class/role identity, so they cleaned it up a little. jobs only further individualize each role's indentity. now people are crying that jobs are too specific and lack utility, or that they don't make the class OMG UBERLEET.

this happens with every single patch, no matter what is added or taken away. people hate it, square changes it. whatever square changes it to, people hate. they can't win either way and i'm honestly getting completely sick of reading about it.

this community is god damned awful.

My only complaints are ever about damage, when the game first came out when cjn had all the elemental spells it sucked, just like thaumaturge too, until you got shadowsear.

They took away the spells and I was ok with that since, you know, the ones that remained were powered up. Now they are giving us some abilities back, that some just generally suck. And you are all ok with that.

[Shiggysonson]

My only complaints are ever about damage, when the game first came out when cjn had all the elemental spells it sucked, just like thaumaturge too, until you got shadowsear.

They took away the spells and I was ok with that since, you know, the ones that remained were powered up. Now they are giving us some abilities back, that some just generally suck. And you are all ok with that.

Wait what abilities are we getting that we had before?

[Jinrya-Geki]

Wait what abilities are we getting that we had before?

Ancient magic spells. Hopefully they don't all share the 15 minute timer, because before they were removed the first time developers decided to make them all 80 second recasts. So if you casted flare all ancient spells would be on the 80 second timer.

Convert (Gimped Exaltation)

Sleepga (Sleep without aoe toggle)

[MartaDemireux]

Ancient magic spells. Hopefully they don't all share the 15 minute timer, because before they were removed the first time developers decided to make them all 80 second recasts. So if you casted flare all ancient spells would be on the 80 second timer.

Convert (Gimped Exaltation)

Sleepga (Sleep without aoe toggle)

Exaltation was entirely broken before, so this new Convert should hopefully fix that. Sleepga I'll give you. Ancient magic has different effects and even animations now. They wouldn't make it a 15min recast without good reason. Think of these new 15min abilities like the 2hr's of XI. 15min is much better than 2hr.

[Shiggysonson]

Ancient magic spells. Hopefully they don't all share the 15 minute timer, because before they were removed the first time developers decided to make them all 80 second recasts. So if you casted flare all ancient spells would be on the 80 second timer.

Convert (Gimped Exaltation)

Sleepga (Sleep without aoe toggle)

I guess you can say they're giving them back to us, but to a very different job and to a very different game. You can't really expect them to give them back to us the way it was because they wouldn't fit; the game has changed that much. I wouldn't even call them gimped either. It's more like they're changed to fit the game better. I view them more as completely new skills to the game with the same name of skills they used in previous final fantasies.

[Firon]

Ancient magic spells. Hopefully they don't all share the 15 minute timer, because before they were removed the first time developers decided to make them all 80 second recasts. So if you casted flare all ancient spells would be on the 80 second timer.

Convert (Gimped Exaltation)

Sleepga (Sleep without aoe toggle)

How is a convert an gimped Exalation? That skill would never give you 2k+ mp no matter much mp you had.

[Jinrya-Geki]

How is a convert an gimped Exalation? That skill would never give you 2k+ mp no matter much mp you had.

We never had 3k mp to find out if it could give you back that much MP. When we did use it over the levels from 1-50 before taken out I would get atleast 75% mp back. Now I have to give up Hp to get back 75% mp.

But if SE continues for us to have ancient magic spells have one timer again, which is the same team that made it one timer before they were also removed, would you use burst and quite possibly pull hate, or use freeze and drop some enmity get a heal, and do some more combos?