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    Quote Originally Posted by Irzephyra View Post
    Like everyone, I can only speak for myself. I dont think, that crystal tower would dissappear from the roulette. Its just gonna be mixed better.
    I'll guarantee you your queue times escalate significantly. People for the most part are happy with the 50 level raids in my opinion. They want the xp and not the time invested in raids they don't need to run. For those who want them well fine but you can be sure that many will simply not do alliance. I personally if I got queued into many of those higher duties regularly will simply do trusts for xp and forget alliance.

    This concept of scaling rewards seems to go on deaf ears around here. If the 60, 70 and 80 level raids awarded more xp people would love doing them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I'll guarantee you your queue times escalate significantly. People for the most part are happy with the 50 level raids in my opinion. They want the xp and not the time invested in raids they don't need to run. For those who want them well fine but you can be sure that many will simply not do alliance. I personally if I got queued into many of those higher duties regularly will simply do trusts for xp and forget alliance.

    This concept of scaling rewards seems to go on deaf ears around here. If the 60, 70 and 80 level raids awarded more xp people would love doing them.
    Its a hard topic, lots of opinions that seem two sided, but when you listen you see, its mote of a spectrum actually.

    I personally like the idea, I mean, I myself dont really care about the reward, so I am not opposed.

    Again, I know I am the odd one. I hail from a time, where the only reward games had were progress and highscores.

    Times are different now, definetly, but thats just my perspective. Thats what this discussion is for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irzephyra View Post
    Times are different now, definetly, but thats just my perspective. Thats what this discussion is for.
    Yes but you need to address the REASON why people are doing it. It's the reward for time invested. Trying to force them into higher level raids will just make them stop doing Alliance. If they can scale rewards for Castrum and Praetorium they can do it here too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Yes but you need to address the REASON why people are doing it. It's the reward for time invested. Trying to force them into higher level raids will just make them stop doing Alliance. If they can scale rewards for Castrum and Praetorium they can do it here too.
    Dont get me wrong.

    I am not saying people should be forced to do stuff, they dont want to.

    But please understand, its a really hard pill for me to swallow, when someone says "I want specific duties" and then goes roulette, which is the opposite of what they want.

    We actually want the same, a change in the way dungeons work. I want my true random dungeons back and you want the incentives.l while choosing your own adventure.

    Thats where the devs should look for a way to change the system.

    Edit: (bad memory)

    The rewards themselves will not solve the problem in a long run, in my opinion. They just set the bar higher and after some time, we are back to square one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irzephyra View Post
    The rewards themselves will not solve the problem in a long run, in my opinion. They just set the bar higher and after some time, we are back to square one.
    Oh yes they will. They certainly will. And I'm not opposed to their changing the roulette and the methods in which rewards are given. It should be a pretty simple fix in my opinion.
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    Why do roulettes have to special anyways?
    Cant just a simple dungeon run give you enough rewards?
    Thats the point I am trying to make.

    You love the ghostship island duty? Just play it and get your reward as much as you like. Why does it have to be so complicated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irzephyra View Post
    Why do roulettes have to special anyways?
    Cant just a simple dungeon run give you enough rewards?
    Thats the point I am trying to make.

    You love the ghostship island duty? Just play it and get your reward as much as you like. Why does it have to be so complicated?
    You need a way to find people to "help" (read: fill the empty spots) for that old content that would otherwise be completely irrelevant and no one would run. The sprouts need to complete a specific set of duties to progress after all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irzephyra View Post
    Cant just a simple dungeon run give you enough rewards?
    Please, tell me the rewards for doing an old dungeon/alliance as a lvl80+ player outside of roulette?

    What do I get for running Sastasha and getting bored to tears? I'm not getting any xp, I'm not getting any relevant loot. Hell, i'm not even getting poetics (which I'm drowning in either way, so don't tell me poetics are good enough rewards for doing later alliance raids).

    And if old players who have already cleared the content don't queue for said content, what happens to new people going through it? Infinite queue. This is why you incentivize people into running roulettes. You give decent queues to new players, and rewards to the old players.
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