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  1. #21
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    Jennah's Avatar
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    Jennah Arhtima
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    Ultros
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Are you comparing the rewards to what you got at 79 and below?
    Quite a few sources of pre-level 80 XP got doubled with the release of Endwalker.
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  2. #22
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Cerberus
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    not sure have it been buff or nerf, but at EW launch the exp does seem to be lower.
    Especially obvious in MSQ, running Praetorium give me roughly only 40% on level 80
    Trial, 50/60/70/80 Dungeon and Normal raid give about similar amount of doing 3 ShB Beast tribe

    but EW dungeon seem to give more EXP, about 5 runs in each leveling dungeon will get me to next leveling dungeon without any rest bonus
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  3. #23
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    Glasse Raines
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    Behemoth
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    If you guys think Zadnor zone 3 is fast you should try Bozjan.

    Zadnor has way too much downtime between fates.
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  4. #24
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I'm leveling stuff at a reasonable pace using the daily roulettes ... I think they've adjusted post 80 leveling not to be as fast.

    I've gotten 2 jobs to 90, one to 89 and am on a 4th progressing nicely.


    I'm just of the opinion that rewarding DF spamming is probably not a priority.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamsoap View Post
    Was hoping to have more of a discussion about the lack of exp given by roulettes now, shouldnt it be concerning? I understand /how/ to level 81-90 efficiently. My shock is that it's so underwhelming they're not worth running, which from what I understood I thought roulettes were the lifeblood of DF, keeping content alive and filled for new players.

    Once you make DR one of the primarily efficient methods, you'll get people getting mad at sprouts for not running them efficiently (which already happens to a degree). I think restricting it to one run per person per day for "optimal" xp it'll keep it less of an elitist minefield.

    Just from your question of is it "worth" it I'm thinking you probably lean towards optimal grinding.. which isn't something I'd encourage attaching to dungeon runs or reinforcing as a driving force. There's plenty of people to draw from to keep old dungeons popping even if they only do it once a day, it isn't going to kill old content if people aren't constantly spamming stuff over and over.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  5. #25
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    Nyarlha Moonstalker
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    Lich
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Michieltjuhh View Post
    I've noticed the same. Did two leveling roulettes on a 0 xp level 80, and despite getting Dohn Mheg (73) and Malikah's Well (77) which should give decent xp in their own right, I only ended up 66% into the level.
    The XP reward for roulettes gets a significant bump in value at lvl81, while lvl80 sucks. A Praet MSQ roulette gives about 50% of a level at lvl80 while at 81 it's more like 70%.
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  6. #26
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    Yumi Raihli
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    Twintania
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    I do lvl 81-89 dungeons and throw roulettes inbetween the dungeons lvls for change of pace to help get towards next dungeon level. It pretty fast lvling from 81-90 to be honest just on the high dungeons. The other way I do it is bozja on the inbetween dungeon levels. It takes 3 dungeons if your at the level of the dungeon
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  7. #27
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    Ravor Elliard
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    Atomos
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Well i do trust so i can also lvl up the scion along, i need to do stuff solo to get loot without competing with other player anyway
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  8. #28
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    Roccia Solida
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    Ragnarok
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    Bard Lv 100
    I just do leveling, trials, alliance raids and frontline roulettes, the other ones are an absolute joke and have been for a long while.
    There's absolutely no point in running, say, normal raids (less exp than a FATE? hello?) or 50/60/70/80 dungeons.
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  9. #29
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    Nyarlha Moonstalker
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    Lich
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RocciaSolida View Post
    I just do leveling, trials, alliance raids and frontline roulettes, the other ones are an absolute joke and have been for a long while.
    There's absolutely no point in running, say, normal raids (less exp than a FATE? hello?) or 50/60/70/80 dungeons.
    I'd argue that even trial is not worth it.
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  10. #30
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    Roccia Solida
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlha View Post
    I'd argue that even trial is not worth it.
    Honestly same but it really depends on which trial you get, some are super quick like the hydra but others are a slog and you risk wiping to them
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