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  1. #31
    Player YukikoKurosawa's Avatar
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    Yukiko Kurosawa
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TristanX View Post
    Yeah, XP has been nerfed a lot. Only Main Scenario gives XP.
    Main scenario isn't even a full level. For 40-50 minute long runs (prae is basically all you will ever get), that's absolutely not worth the time investment. Exp sources across the board need to be severely buffed, fates, dungeons, roulettes. It all needs to not feel borderline useless and make you feel tempted to buy job boosts to level up your alts. I can't stand leveling a dps alt job and just boosted them all. There's basically zero efficient way to level up a dps right now and it was the same in ShB's. Nothing gives any substantial source of exp. You feel like you're wasting your time and getting nowhere. Leveling a dps alt after the MSQ is like playing one of those old grindy mmos. Exp sources need to be majorly buffed across the board unless the intention is to incentivize buying job skips in which case this is working as intended.

    And for people saying "just unlock Bozja"

    1. You need to be lvl 80 to even open it up
    2. It's an OBSENELY long grind through some of the absolute worst story content in the game (Ivalice raids), then you have to unlock the full map piece by piece along with max mount speed, or you won't be able to do all the fates let along keep up with everyone else who's got full mount speed.

    I feel like a lot of people did Bozja when it was new and forgot what an obnoxious grind it was to get to the point where you could effecively level alts through it, so they recommend newer players not mentioning any of that leading to frustration. For a new player, it's not even worth it if you're sole interest is using it to level alts. The time you spend unlocking the full map + max riding speed you could have leveled your alts through fate farms (as painful as they can be), daily roulettes, etc. But just saying "Do bozja" is poor advice to a new player. It's great if you're already unlocked all of it. Worthless if you haven't even started it because the pre-requisites and subsequent grind is just too long for anyone who just wants to level alts faster.
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    Last edited by YukikoKurosawa; 12-27-2021 at 08:37 PM.

  2. #32
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by YukikoKurosawa View Post
    Main scenario isn't even a full level. For 40-50 minute long runs (prae is basically all you will ever get), that's absolutely not worth the time investment. Exp sources across the board need to be severely buffed, fates, dungeons, roulettes. It all needs to not feel borderline useless and make you feel tempted to buy job boosts to level up your alts. I can't stand leveling a dps alt job and just boosted them all. There's basically zero efficient way to level up a dps right now and it was the same in ShB's. Nothing gives any substantial source of exp. You feel like you're wasting your time and getting nowhere. Leveling a dps alt after the MSQ is like playing one of those old grindy mmos. Exp sources need to be majorly buffed across the board unless the intention is to incentivize buying job skips in which case this is working as intended.

    And for people saying "just unlock Bozja"

    1. You need to be lvl 80 to even open it up
    2. It's an OBSENELY long grind through some of the absolute worst story content in the game (Ivalice raids), then you have to unlock the full map piece by piece along with max mount speed, or you won't be able to do all the fates let along keep up with everyone else who's got full mount speed.

    I feel like a lot of people did Bozja when it was new and forgot what an obnoxious grind it was to get to the point where you could effecively level alts through it, so they recommend newer players not mentioning any of that leading to frustration. For a new player, it's not even worth it if you're sole interest is using it to level alts. The time you spend unlocking the full map + max riding speed you could have leveled your alts through fate farms (as painful as they can be), daily roulettes, etc. But just saying "Do bozja" is poor advice to a new player. It's great if you're already unlocked all of it. Worthless if you haven't even started it because the pre-requisites and subsequent grind is just too long for anyone who just wants to level alts faster.
    I did all of Ivalice and Bozja when it was fresh, and I didn't even bother with it for leveling my alt classes. So not only is it a chore to unlock, but it's unnecessary as well.

    Queue for your latests leveling dungeon (level X1-X9) and do FATEs while you wait. That's by all means fast enough.
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  3. #33
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    Floortank's Avatar
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    Character
    Kaska Onerys
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Three nights straight I have gotten 90% of a level in Praetorium running it at 88 and 89.

    I got 100% of a level last night, 89->90, doing Alliance Roulette and Leveling Roulette. Apparently they scale with your level now, as the amounts aren't nearly this crazy in the early 80s.
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  4. #34
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    Endariel's Avatar
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    Character
    Riviera Koji
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 42
    Prae is very much a whole level.
    But if get castrum, well....

    Also Frontline gives around 1/2
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