Roulettes hardly give any exp?

[Dreamsoap]

I find they're only worth running for tomes now. Am I taking crazy pills or are they just absolutely not worthwhile anymore for the 80-90 stretch? I get so much more from fate or zadnor. I know 81 dungeons got buffed but the aforementioned is still significantly faster.

It seems like only frontline and Praetorium are filling the bar. And prae is a 50/50 chance anyway.

[Lily_Skye]

yup

zadnor zone 3 till 90

[Glasse]

If you guys think Zadnor zone 3 is fast you should try Bozjan.

Zadnor has way too much downtime between fates.

[TristanX]

Yeah, XP has been nerfed a lot. Only Main Scenario gives XP.

[YukikoKurosawa]

Yeah, XP has been nerfed a lot. Only Main Scenario gives XP.

Main scenario isn't even a full level. For 40-50 minute long runs (prae is basically all you will ever get), that's absolutely not worth the time investment. Exp sources across the board need to be severely buffed, fates, dungeons, roulettes. It all needs to not feel borderline useless and make you feel tempted to buy job boosts to level up your alts. I can't stand leveling a dps alt job and just boosted them all. There's basically zero efficient way to level up a dps right now and it was the same in ShB's. Nothing gives any substantial source of exp. You feel like you're wasting your time and getting nowhere. Leveling a dps alt after the MSQ is like playing one of those old grindy mmos. Exp sources need to be majorly buffed across the board unless the intention is to incentivize buying job skips in which case this is working as intended.

And for people saying "just unlock Bozja"

1. You need to be lvl 80 to even open it up
2. It's an OBSENELY long grind through some of the absolute worst story content in the game (Ivalice raids), then you have to unlock the full map piece by piece along with max mount speed, or you won't be able to do all the fates let along keep up with everyone else who's got full mount speed.

I feel like a lot of people did Bozja when it was new and forgot what an obnoxious grind it was to get to the point where you could effecively level alts through it, so they recommend newer players not mentioning any of that leading to frustration. For a new player, it's not even worth it if you're sole interest is using it to level alts. The time you spend unlocking the full map + max riding speed you could have leveled your alts through fate farms (as painful as they can be), daily roulettes, etc. But just saying "Do bozja" is poor advice to a new player. It's great if you're already unlocked all of it. Worthless if you haven't even started it because the pre-requisites and subsequent grind is just too long for anyone who just wants to level alts faster.

[Warlyx]

DR pvp gives half lvl ~

leveling gives around 33% now , MSQ gives tons of exp too

EW dungeons are half a level after last patch

[Maxilor]

Don't do Roulette beyond your daily one if you're going for XP.

Try just spamming the highest level dungeon you can do.

or.....bore yourself to death in Zadnor Zone 3 like everyone to else.

Personally, i'd rather stick my nethers in a rat trap than step into Bozja ever again.

[Quintessa]

DR bonuses give big chunks as always. Dungeon spam outside of that not much.

[FusiaRain]

na they give a decent amount if you are getting the bonus+1st daily run

[Momo_Kozuki]

Frontline (queue with class you want to level, change to class you want to use when get in), MSQ, Leveling and Trial roulette offer good exp.



Outside of daily bonuses, if you do lv81-89 dungeons, you will likely do 3 runs to gain a level.


Also pixie quests which give you 990k exp, which ranges from 1/5 exp bar to 1/10 exp bar depend on how high your level. There are also hunt quests which help if you want extra exp once you unlock flying.



If you just want to rush to max level, go Zadnor. Someone said it takes 6 hours in Zadnor to level up a class to 90.