Square Enix is running out of ideas for raids

[Kaurhz]

False, as proven by the BCoB's normal mode not being puggable.

False, it was a puggable thing you just had less opportunity to do outside of Party Finder, since the advent of cross-world in 3.5, that's just a player convenience. So the only tangible thing to do was PF on your world, or hope for the best with Duty Finder where it was even more of a raffle as to who you got and their competence.

[lezard21]

Then why are they not included in any of the roulettes, despite being very important for the oh so great story?

Even the devs know better than to inflict upon us the suffering of doing coils with casuals.

[Laerune]

Normal content has always been easy and when there was difficulty the encounter was nerfed. Normal should be easy, content is meant to be done once for the story. If you want difficulty do Savage and Ultimate.

[lezard21]

Normal content has always been easy and when there was difficulty the encounter was nerfed. Normal should be easy, content is meant to be done once for the story. If you want difficulty do Savage and Ultimate.

Would that I could, but Ultimate content keeps getting pushed back in favor of casual content and a better EW launch...

oh.

[Komarimono]

Then why are they not included in any of the roulettes, despite being very important for the oh so great story?

Even the devs know better than to inflict upon us the suffering of doing coils with casuals.

Wait, so because you've obviously not completed them and unlocked the savage, ya saying ya never once encountered Coils during normal raid roulette? Maybe fully complete it, and will show up in roulette for you. That's why you're not seeing it.

[lezard21]

Wait, so because you've obviously not completed them and unlocked the savage, ya saying ya never once encountered Coils during normal raid roulette? Maybe fully complete it, and will show up in roulette for you. That's why you're not seeing it.

instead of wasting time educating you, I will save you the time to google
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...:_Normal_Raids
in the future please don't waste people's time if you are uninformed or uneducated

[Veliaire]

Would that I could, but Ultimate content keeps getting pushed back in favor of casual content and a better EW launch...

oh.

Then your problem is not with the fact that there is normal content, your problem is that there is a lack of savage content. Just wait and you will have your savage content. There will never be a time where a new expansion launches and they release the savage version before the normal version. That will never happen, so you can just forget about that right now.

[Abelisk]

And if we had new mechanics we would have a new kind of complaint threads here.

[Jirah]

I believe a normal raid should not be that convoluted in terms of mechanics for random parties to complete. It might be fun for someone to wipe for 30th time in a normal raid just because you don't have that communication that's required to do certain mechanics, but I'm not spending 3 hours of my life in a normal raid. That's why we have savage, and until we get savage for pandemonium it's too early to bash on SE's creativity.

Normal raids should be understandable enough for casual players to complete.

Sick of this argument of accessibility, this is optional content why should it appeal to everyone? Also theirs a blatant balance between “too difficulty” and “fun yet requires something out of you” also the game very much as multiple ways of communication then hell you talking about?

The transitionary phases such as Eden4/8/12 being savage exclusive isn’t what I call making content accessible to everyone.

TLDR: the game can very much be fun and accessible but these apologist almost always pull the low hanging fruit and say “I don’t wanna wipe” in that case don’t play anything besides story. Done and done

[Kaurhz]

Then why are they not included in any of the roulettes, despite being very important for the oh so great story?

Even the devs know better than to inflict upon us the suffering of doing coils with casuals.

Because they barely had the inception of a 2-tier difficulty back then, outside of the second coil savage which was even then just a 1-time thing for second coil, so they didn't really have the distinction between Normal/Savage, so really the difficulties were all over the place.

Taking into account that 'normal' mode as you so gleefully put it only had a normal mode counterpart, and said counterpart was the route in which you would obtain best-in-slot, not only that was also more challenging than Extreme. it's not really a difficult notion to grasp that they didn't really consider Coils of Bahamut to be 'normal' difficulty

Comparing ARR (the inception of everything) to the game now is just a fruitless endeavour.