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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    It was mentioned in a moment of Endwalker by Gaius that while WoL is well know throughout the world BUT most people do not know what WoL directly looks like since their information is based on only stories they heard from others.

    This is reflected a lot by how a lot of NPCs react to WoL at first throughout 2.0 to current content as WoL names tugs at them at first until it hits them later that he/she is the legendary WoL they heard about from the stories being told.

    I can only assume the stories about WoL are overly exaggerated to a point his/her appearance in those stories is not so accurate description of his/her appearance.
    But even at that, the feeling of wonder and new is undone the moment they realize you are you. I mean, I think the writers would do a good job regardless if the new arc takes place in another continent, but I feel that there's the best potential in a shard where there's no way nobody ever heard about you and you bring nothing of the Source to it.

    And by that, I mean world-building, since in theory it has the potential, lore wise, of a brand new game, since they don't have to connect anything back to the Source for it to work. And the biggest thing is while at that, they don't need to forget the Source exists, because it can still thrive as its own entity with side content.
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    Guys, when it comes to future locations beyond 6.0 and the patches, do you think blasphemies would still be involved? You know, when I thought that 6.0 would have the whole world "involved", I thought Hingashi would be part of it but I guess their situation is not that "desperate" like the Samurai Job Quest 60-70 implied. The land is very peaceful and full of harmony I guess /s

    But seriously though a lot of places have blasphemy-risk where the celestial aether is thin, blasphemies can appear in conflict/stress heavy locations when Meteia was still active and the Scions' work is actually not done yet if blasphemies could still exist after the defeat of the Meteia hivemind. A lot of people are still ignorant about how the blasphemies work in-universe.
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    I would like them to at least uncover the continent on the world map that's been hidden by clouds for a decade before we go to the continents that aren't even on the map yet. Corvos is mentioned so many times in the Endwalker MSQ it felt like they were setting it up pretty heavily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    But even at that, the feeling of wonder and new is undone the moment they realize you are you. I mean, I think the writers would do a good job regardless if the new arc takes place in another continent, but I feel that there's the best potential in a shard where there's no way nobody ever heard about you and you bring nothing of the Source to it.

    And by that, I mean world-building, since in theory it has the potential, lore wise, of a brand new game, since they don't have to connect anything back to the Source for it to work. And the biggest thing is while at that, they don't need to forget the Source exists, because it can still thrive as its own entity with side content.
    Well the best chance for WoL to enter with a clean slate in Season 2 without ignoring all of WoL actions in Season 1 will be if Season 2 focus mostly in the New World. WoL is well known to everyone in Eorzea and locations around Eorzea but in the New World, word about WoL's deeds may not have reached lands that far from Eorzea. Not even the Garlean Empire manage to establish much presence in the New World as well so I will not be surprised if civilizations in the New World did not get much information about what is happening in Eorzea and the lands around Eorzea.

    To the civilization of the New World, they probably saw events of the Final Days as a unknown event due to low or no contact from Eorzea and the civilizations that do have full contact with Eorzea.

    The New World also give SE the ability to get creative with new civilizations and the Jobs involved with those civilizations due to how little we know about the New World beyond what we are told from Blue Mage quests.

    Quote Originally Posted by symbiote129 View Post
    Guys, when it comes to future locations beyond 6.0 and the patches, do you think blasphemies would still be involved? You know, when I thought that 6.0 would have the whole world "involved", I thought Hingashi would be part of it but I guess their situation is not that "desperate" like the Samurai Job Quest 60-70 implied. The land is very peaceful and full of harmony I guess /s

    But seriously though a lot of places have blasphemy-risk where the celestial aether is thin, blasphemies can appear in conflict/stress heavy locations when Meteia was still active and the Scions' work is actually not done yet if blasphemies could still exist after the defeat of the Meteia hivemind. A lot of people are still ignorant about how the blasphemies work in-universe.
    It is mentioned that despite the Final Days prevented, those that have already changed will remain as blasphemies. This lore indicate we may see more blasphemies in the future due to those that transformed already are forever blasphemies until they die but there should be no more people becoming blasphemies. This lore does have potential to provide plenty of things in Season 2 locations especially the locations that have little contact with Eorzea and its ally nations such as the New World locations thus they should be unaware about Ascians, Final Days, and etc that almost everyone in Eorzea and the nations that have contact with Eorzea knows about.
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    I'm honestly hoping the 7.0 (Name Unknown) myth arc has nothing to do with the Ascians, Ancients, Amaurot, etc.

    It was a great story but to be a truly fresh start it needs to be unshackled by those plot elements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    I'm honestly hoping the 7.0 (Name Unknown) myth arc has nothing to do with the Ascians, Ancients, Amaurot, etc.

    It was a great story but to be a truly fresh start it needs to be unshackled by those plot elements.
    Which can only mean, we should go to the New World. Why? Because nobody will know us, know what we've done, and supposedly it wasn't touched by Allagans. Meaning a true fresh start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    I'm honestly hoping the 7.0 (Name Unknown) myth arc has nothing to do with the Ascians, Ancients, Amaurot, etc.

    It was a great story but to be a truly fresh start it needs to be unshackled by those plot elements.
    Yoshi-p already said the Ascians, Ancients, Amaurot, Zodiark, Hydaelyn, and etc related to them all ended in 6.0.

    Season 2 is going to be a new storyline involving new antagonists and etc. However, expect the Scions to return as Season 2 is meant to be a sequel storyline after all.

    We can basically consider Season 2 story to be Final Fantasy 14-2.

    With Season 2 beginning in 6.1, I expect 6.55 maybe mostly focus on setting up where WoL will go to Season 2 and the new antagonist while introducing some of the new companions WoL will adventure with for Season 2. Of course we should expect the Scions to return eventually in a sequel storyline fashion one at a time due to varies reasons for them joining WoL on his/her new world saving adventure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by symbiote129 View Post
    Guys, when it comes to future locations beyond 6.0 and the patches, do you think blasphemies would still be involved? You know, when I thought that 6.0 would have the whole world "involved", I thought Hingashi would be part of it but I guess their situation is not that "desperate" like the Samurai Job Quest 60-70 implied. The land is very peaceful and full of harmony I guess /s

    But seriously though a lot of places have blasphemy-risk where the celestial aether is thin, blasphemies can appear in conflict/stress heavy locations when Meteia was still active and the Scions' work is actually not done yet if blasphemies could still exist after the defeat of the Meteia hivemind. A lot of people are still ignorant about how the blasphemies work in-universe.
    Hmm, now that I think about it, was the lead blasphemy around Garlemald ever found and defeated? I distinctly remember Krile or someone in an off-hand conversation during the MSQ mentioning that the Final Days phenomenon was observed spreading NORTH of Garlemald at one point, but that thankfully the area was known to be sparsely populated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Yoshi-p already said the Ascians, Ancients, Amaurot, Zodiark, Hydaelyn, and etc related to them all ended in 6.0.
    There are like five Ascians left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    Hmm, now that I think about it, was the lead blasphemy around Garlemald ever found and defeated? I distinctly remember Krile or someone in an off-hand conversation during the MSQ mentioning that the Final Days phenomenon was observed spreading NORTH of Garlemald at one point, but that thankfully the area was known to be sparsely populated.
    The burning skies are just a side effect of where the dynamis corruption is the strongest and not actually tied to the presence of blasphemies as the one in Thavnair was mentioned as showing up before the skies even changed.

    I kind of expect the blasphemies are going to have a continued presence in the MSQ for a while yet regardless, though...and probably side content as well if we end up going to Corvos.
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