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  1. #231
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    Alklios's Avatar
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    Aelfred Sigmundsson
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Seems like someone is trying to police what content people do with proverbial leash and collar to pull them into what they want to do.
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  2. #232
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    Saraide's Avatar
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    This is all assuming that people who do itemlevel cheesing would do alliance roulette if it wasnt possible. I wouldnt be so sure about that tbh.
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  3. #233
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    wereotter's Avatar
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Faerie
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alklios View Post
    Some people don't want to wipe 3 times on Thunder King, spend over an hour in the raid, because players won't pay attention, just for 3 materia and exp.
    This isn't the case nowadays. I've had Oborrne Monastery as my roulette result multiple times since Endwalker launched, only one had a wipe to TG Cid. People are more competent now that you're giving them credit for, and we've had gear progression and stat squishing making even more of these older raids easier.
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  4. #234
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    Dewslam's Avatar
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    Dewslam Beefgrab
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    Honestly rather than punishing people they need to incentivize pushing people to queue for the higher level alliance raids. Right now it isn't worth most people's time when the tower climb offers the same rewards for half the investment cost. Either that or they need to re-tune the tower climb raids to actually require mechanics again, and keep scaling them going forward so that they can't be so thoroughly cheesed, but you'd likely see a lot more push back over that decision.
    This is all that needs to be said on the matter. Either the higher level raids need to reward substantially higher exp, or they need something else to make them worth doing in the roulette or people just aren't going to do them; and trying to force people to do them is just going to make people try harder to evade that by doing things like going in naked and then swapping their gear once the raid starts.
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  5. 12-22-2021 09:54 AM

  6. #235
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    Floortank's Avatar
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    Kaska Onerys
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    How is it "selfish"?
    How is it selfish to take a roulette with twelve possible duties and guarantee it be just three of those because they're easy and you don't want to do harder ones that people need story clears for?

    Really?
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  7. #236
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    Rolder50's Avatar
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 91
    How exactly would you stop it? Remove the item level check and let people queue in with terrible gear? Seems like a recipe for other sorts of disasters.

    About the only reasonable fix I could think of would be to adjust the scaling on the ARR Raids so that you don't absolutely dumpster them, but I'm not sure I've ever seen SE intentionally make something *more* difficult.
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  8. #237
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    SonjaRampage's Avatar
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    Sonja Sable
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Plz leave it as it is...I love cheese.
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  9. #238
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I hardly even run a alliance raid roulette not worth it. Not sure what your complaint is everytime I run it have a faster queue than do for the msq roulette. If your complaining about others not carrying you though your raid story that selfish to think others should have to carry you.
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    Last edited by hynaku; 12-22-2021 at 11:01 AM.

  10. #239
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SonjaRampage View Post
    Plz leave it as it is...I love cheese.
    Sounds more like cheese cake when they spawn in naked.
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  11. #240
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    Hell they removed/nerfed the dragon in LoTA, skeletons can't wipe groups anymore.
    They didn't touch it, we just horribly out-gear it. LOTA was designed for fresh 50s, not people synched to item level 130.
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