Please fix the “naked queueing” for Aliance Raids

[tdb]

I didn't read the entire thread, so maybe this was suggested already. But here's an idea: make the roulette rewards based on equipment rather than character level. Want tomestones of allegory? Better queue with i420 or higher gear. XP rewards would also scale appropriately, with some slack so you wouldn't need to update your gear after every level. This should disincentivize item level cheesing while still keeping the alliance roulette a valid way to level alternate jobs.

[Packetdancer]

Honestly, Crystal Tower is now required for MSQ; move it from Alliance Raid to Main Scenario roulette. Now Alliance Roulette can only give you Mhach, Ivalice, or Copied Factory.

Those who want the early content can queue for Main Scenario; they can now get one of five things instead of one of two, and if you do get Crystal Tower stuff the reward will be higher there than if you got it in Alliance. And those who are tired of Crystal Tower can just queue for Alliance roulette.

Yes, some people would complain it's a net loss because you can't do CT in Alliance raid and also do Main Scenario in the same day. But I think on balance folks might be okay with it; the CT runs would still be faster than Praetorium.

[Lily_Skye]

By people doing this, they are in increasing the queue times for later raids for new players, directly making the experience worse. They are also EXPLOITING an unintended loop hole in the game mechanics. PLEASE fix this. I’m so tired of getting Labyrinth and then seeing selfish people on chat smugly saying “it worked!”

No

[tdb]

Honestly, Crystal Tower is now required for MSQ; move it from Alliance Raid to Main Scenario roulette.

Won't work because alliance raids and MSQ dungeons have different party configurations. All duties in a roulette must have the same configuration.

[Tlamila]

Won't work because alliance raids and MSQ dungeons have different party configurations. All duties in a roulette must have the same configuration.

That is actually not true. See guildhests roulette, where one of them is a 8men while the rest are 4 men.

[Morningstar1337]

That is actually not true. See guildhests roulette, where one of them is a 8men while the rest are 4 men.

It is also the least relevant roulette/content though. And also its the only such roueltte implying SE mixing different comp types toghther was a mistake (further supported by them making CT need 3 tanks as opposed to the 6 it originally needed (AFAIK), and that the first three Trials (which are 4mans) are lumped in Leveling roueltteisntad of Trials

[Packetdancer]

All duties in a roulette must have the same configuration.

This isn't actually true; both Mentor and Guildhest roulettes can throw you into duties with different requirements. Guildhests can throw you into 4 or 8 man guildhests, and Mentor roulettes can be anything from a four-person guildhest to an 8-person trial, or a 24-person alliance raid.

However, the roulette does have to restrict you to the intersection of the requirements. Guildhests only allow you to queue four people into the roulette, even if you get one of the 8-man ones. Mentor roulette requires you to queue in solo, admittedly for reasons beyond just the party-configuration limitations (to make it easier to fill in gaps in party composition).

So with this change, MSQ roulette would then mean that your party could contain at most one tank and at most four DPS, along with two healers. So you could only queue in seven people as a group; if you got Castrum Meridianum or Praetorium you'd end up with an extra tank matched in (two tanks, two healers, four DPS), and if you got the Crystal Tower raids you'd end up with an extra DPS matched in (one tank, two healers, five DPS).

[Lucyfurr1988]

its not just alliance raids I'm seeing it a lot in normal raids now too. just had a RPR level 90 have literally nothing on in entry to an alex raid. more and more people are taking advantage of this exploit and it needs to be made against ToS already

[Alklios]

Some people don't want to wipe 3 times on Thunder King, spend over an hour in the raid, because players won't pay attention, just for 3 materia and exp.

[Moonlite]

If this is a real problem for SE, they would take one of two routes probably. They are not going to add all these new check mechanisms that players are looking for. Either they implement some sort of nerf that makes the runs equal. Hell they removed/nerfed the dragon in LoTA, skeletons can't wipe groups anymore. Or buff the reward like MSQ to the point people want to do it.



I think people are overreacting. I have gotten CT/LoTA seven times in a row and every run had new people. When I get higher lvl ones they never have a new person in them. New people are supposed to take priority in que.