Please fix the “naked queueing” for Aliance Raids

[jamjeeshoul77]

By people doing this, they are in increasing the queue times for later raids for new players, directly making the experience worse. They are also EXPLOITING an unintended loop hole in the game mechanics. PLEASE fix this. I’m so tired of getting Labyrinth and then seeing selfish people on chat smugly saying “it worked!”

[Edax]

By people doing this, they are in increasing the queue times for later raids for new players, directly making the experience worse. They are also EXPLOITING an unintended loop hole in the game mechanics. PLEASE fix this. I’m so tired of getting Labyrinth and then seeing selfish people on chat smugly saying “it worked!”

How is it "selfish"?

[Endeleon]

It's actually very few people who do this. Just look in your party list next time, you'll notice most people use Alliance Roulette for levelling characters, so they literally can't be put into higher ones. I've made a habit of it because I used to believe this myth. Nearly half of every party is sub-70.

[jamjeeshoul77]

How is it "selfish"?

How is it not selfish to exploit an unintended effect of ilvl in order to get into a single raid out of 12 possible ones, directly causing the queue times for the other 11 raids to increase for new players attempting to complete them, and also increasing the chance that other players have to run the most boring raid in the game? Don’t tell me, you’re also one of these exploiters?

It's actually very few people who do this. Just look in your party list next time, you'll notice most people use Alliance Roulette for levelling characters, so they literally can't be put into higher ones. I've made a habit of it because I used to believe this myth. Nearly half of every party is sub-70.

Regardless of how many people do this, it directly affects the game experience for new and old players alike and should be fixed immediately.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

I'm sure the fact Crystal Tower is now mandatory for MSQ has no bearing on this, and it's all those damn mean ilvl cheeses fault, right?

[jamjeeshoul77]

I can’t believe people are seriously defending this

[Edax]

How is it not selfish to exploit an unintended effect of ilvl in order to get into a single raid out of 12 possible ones, directly causing the queue times for the other 11 raids to increase for new players attempting to complete them, and also increasing the chance that other players have to run the most boring raid in the game? Don’t tell me, you’re also one of these exploiters?

It is not my civic duty to reduce queue times. I raid Labyrinth because I want to and because it has faster completion and queue times. It's all perfectly logical to do so. I even completed my Ninja glam doing so when leveling up my alts, took me about 40 runs to accomplish it.

[Enla]

Honestly rather than punishing people they need to incentivize pushing people to queue for the higher level alliance raids. Right now it isn't worth most people's time when the tower climb offers the same rewards for half the investment cost. Either that or they need to re-tune the tower climb raids to actually require mechanics again, and keep scaling them going forward so that they can't be so thoroughly cheesed, but you'd likely see a lot more push back over that decision.

[jamjeeshoul77]

It is not my civic duty to reduce queue times. I raid Labyrinth because I want to and because it has faster completion and queue times. It's all perfectly logical to do so. I even completed my Ninja glam doing so when leveling up my alts, took me about 40 runs to accomplish it.

It's actually very few people who do this. Just look in your party list next time, you'll notice most people use Alliance Roulette for levelling characters, so they literally can't be put into higher ones. I've made a habit of it because I used to believe this myth. Nearly half of every party is sub-70.

Regardless of how many people do this, it directly affects the game experience for new and old players alike and should be fixed immediately.
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Single queuing for a raid to get a glam is NOT the same thing as exploiting the ilvl requirement for the ROULETTE to get into a raid so you get your rewards faster.

[Theodric]

I can’t believe people are seriously defending this

A lot of players take the path of least resistance in this game at every turn. Personally I'd be all for the ARR and HW 24 man raids being their own separate roulette with the SB and ShB 24 man raids being a newer, higher reward roulette.