Please remake 1.0 in New Game+

[DPZ2]

If you really really really want to experience all of the 1.0 cutscenes, and have at least 7 hours to waste, no need for NG+, since that particular feature can only let you relive the story line from 2.0 and later, here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vja5eQoJDso

Did I mention that this is just under 7 hours of cutscenes? You've been warned.

[Took me, what, 30 seconds? on YouTube searching for "FFXIV 1.0 story"]

[AceofRains]

I have never played it so i want to experience how bad it was. :3


Cheers

I’m also tired of people saying how bad it was. It was actually really good in a lot of ways, especially when 1.14 brought the job system.

The bad was that you needed a PC that could handle it, maps were redundant and didn’t have landmarks or notable locations, released early, oceans of retainers, and lots of inconsistencies and bugs early on and no driving content was prepared. The style of the gameplay was actually quite fun to me, your characters had weight so the realm in some ways felt more immersive. Instead of not having belts, the belts were actually visible equipment. Back then I actually made friends and cared about grouping. Since ARR I have been NOTHING but solo and lonely. If the engine wasn’t so difficult to work with I would have preferred we stayed in that system, but I’m also happy and thankful with what we have today. There’s alot bad to say about 1.0 but honestly there is a ton of good to say about it too. One of the touches that i liked back then was the unique animations when equipping a job stone like I’m a Power Ranger, they cut that out in ARR instead we just flash and change gear.

[ReynTime]

Nightmare!

Lord Yoshida said Nightmare. I have no idea what I'm talking about nor do I bother filtering out the few things that are fine from 1.0 but as a tempered being by the elder primal Yoshi-P I must just repeat Nightmare like a zombie whenever anyone makes a topic asking about anything related to 1.0.

Also I absolutely love how in these 1.0 topics people who claim to have been there keep bringing up fallacies regurgitated and repeated by people who weren't there to begin with. It's like the ET caused the video game crash of 83 all over again, but FFXIV 1.0 edition. There were a lot of things wrong with 1.0, but don't just blindly parrot Yoshida's one comment in an interview, completely out of context, or make up reasons when there are plenty legit ones to be had, and even a few things the game did better than it does now.

The reason Yoshida said it'd be a Nightmare has more to do with the fact they don't have 1.0 or even 1.23's version files and source as they used to be just lying around, the fact most of the 1.0 staff is gone which made and would make documentation a ginormous pain, all this for a version of XIV that was never going to (and wouldn't if brought back) appeal to a post WoW era player audience. And the risk of giving the wrong image for players who would go into the hypothetical classic server and judge XIV based on it instead of the newer version. There was also the concern of players who would fail to understand the circumstances would blame the dev team for the legacy bugs, performance and design problems.
Furthermore very few producers understand the appeal of game preservation. There are always some niche audience that wishes they had access to older versions of games. Offline or online. But with online games the unfortunate reality is that most of the time that's at the complete mercy of the publisher, hence why you get multiple topics like this one asking for either a "classic" server or a recreation of cutscenes or playable form of it. And it's a shame even when they have no intention of doing anything at all with it they won't even leave it to others to do the work.

[SigmaOZ]

How about a Final Fantasy 1.0 OFFLINE version?.


I would love to play the original game but understand is not feasible to bring it back "online", however, a normal offline Final Fantasy version of 1.0 could be done, of course it would have to be adjusted for a single player experience which might be difficult but if they decided to, it might produce SE more money from the depths of hell where the game must be now.

[Kaliesto]

Well its certainly possible, they did make a offline version of Dragon Quest X recently (though I really can't stand the chibi look).

[Hayden]

As one who played 1.0 and knows how terrible it was... NO

You're not missing much...honestly. We did a lot of fetch quests, stood around while our Path Companion did all the talking, then played a "dodge the aoe" mini game while the Scions faught Gaius for us...thats really it.

[van_arn]

You're not missing much...honestly. We did a lot of fetch quests, stood around while our Path Companion did all the talking, then played a "dodge the aoe" mini game while the Scions faught Gaius for us...thats really it.

You forgot to mention the walking. Oh the walking.

[SilverObi]

Aside from the people being purposely obtuse and/or vomiting up the word nightmare...

This is something entirely possible over the course of an expansion as a side project just like many additions through the years have been. They don't have recreate the scenes/animations/cinematography 1:1, just give ARR-style versions with the emotes and waist-up rotation-walking (since turning animations were uncommon then) and condense it into a maybe 2 hour (tops) greatest hits style of story beats that culminates in a solo trial against Nael on Rivenroad and then auto-plays the ARR intro that we know so well.

And they've a myriad of setpieces and zone sections that can be used to approximate the locations in 1.0 with the exception of some extremely notable spots near the end. And as for them taking all the lore that still suitably fits into ARR, that includes the 1.0 MSQ. Non of that is non-canon so it's not like they'd have to explain some weird story oddity that has been left behind or retconned, and the only real lore hiccup would be if you aren't a Legacy character that defeated Nael originally but did so in NG+ and they still refer to the WoLs as someone else instead of the wink and nod those subset of Legacy players got.

[AceofRains]

Aside from the people being purposely obtuse and/or vomiting up the word nightmare...

This is something entirely possible over the course of an expansion as a side project just like many additions through the years have been. They don't have recreate the scenes/animations/cinematography 1:1, just give ARR-style versions with the emotes and waist-up rotation-walking (since turning animations were uncommon then) and condense it into a maybe 2 hour (tops) greatest hits style of story beats that culminates in a solo trial against Nael on Rivenroad and then auto-plays the ARR intro that we know so well.

And they've a myriad of setpieces and zone sections that can be used to approximate the locations in 1.0 with the exception of some extremely notable spots near the end. And as for them taking all the lore that still suitably fits into ARR, that includes the 1.0 MSQ. Non of that is non-canon so it's not like they'd have to explain some weird story oddity that has been left behind or retconned, and the only real lore hiccup would be if you aren't a Legacy character that defeated Nael originally but did so in NG+ and they still refer to the WoLs as someone else instead of the wink and nod those subset of Legacy players got.

This is 100% exactly what I have been trying to convey. And I’m willing to bet, the more time goes after Endwalker, the more other people will be on board with this idea. If you’re a 1.0 player and didn’t reflect on everything that’s happened after clearing the story, you’d have to be asleep at the wheel or just not that invested to care. As soon as I was done with Endwalker I wanted to go back to the beginning (ARR? No I said the beginning, 1.0) Watching those scenes with what we know now, thing’s like Othard, Bozja we’re long since mentioned. Or the distinction between Hydaelyn’s role versus The Twelve, in that they had little to do with each-other but the people know so little about the Echo they just weren’t sure who blessed them with it. Plus like, How many times have we gotten side projects I don’t think anyone particularly even asked for but they went all out on [looking at you Performance and Hildebrand].

[Gemina]

I'm perfectly ok with 1.0 being this time in history that I can only open up an ancient tome and read about (or look up videos on youtube). 1.0 is like a cult classic that you just don't touch despite having better technology; it can't capture the essence of 1.0 that now exists as nostalgia for the players that went through it.

If they were going to put in the effort to have us live through another part of Eorzea's history, I would rather them go back further. Way back. Prior to the 3rd calamity and in Meracydia during the days the real Bahamut was alive. If there is anything I would love to see expanded upon, it would involve Midgarsormr and the first brood and I highly doubt I am the only one.