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    Please remake 1.0 in New Game+

    After finishing Endwalker, I so wanted to play it again, but I also found it’s not New Game+ yet. Oh, oh well. Booo. I have not played the current implementations of NG+ but if I wanted to go through this all over again, I would highly appreciate remaking the original 1.0 events, which for the cutscene systems we have now, are not verily complicated to reimagine.

    Without 1.0, though it is many times alluded to, I feel there is a chapter in this game that I might never get to see again. The spark that began this whole endeavor. To learn the source of meteor storm hydaelyn shows us, has been roughly ten years in the making and I can not forget the moment I was called to hear, think, feel, and walk.

    Many people can only experience these events vicariously on preserved YouTube videos. Please, please, please, reintegrate these scenes and quests so that we ALL can experience Final Fantasy 14 in its full glory and splendor.

    Edit: to be perfectly clear im not talking about implementing all the old systems of the old game. Im just saying reimagine the main cutscenes and add simple quests to carry it, such as queue for bowl of embers- type stuff. I am NOT talking about things like Chocobo Escorts, Notorious Monsters, or anything about how that version of the game played. Trim it down where needed and keep it a small project- 1.0 MSQ is not all that long. After just watching all of the cutscenes then starting my ARR NG+, I feel even more compelled to say the experience feels more complete WITH 1.0’s lore.
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    Last edited by AceofRains; 12-20-2021 at 03:09 PM.

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    Nightmare!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    Nightmare!
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    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    Nightmare!
    Lord Yoshida said Nightmare. I have no idea what I'm talking about nor do I bother filtering out the few things that are fine from 1.0 but as a tempered being by the elder primal Yoshi-P I must just repeat Nightmare like a zombie whenever anyone makes a topic asking about anything related to 1.0.

    Also I absolutely love how in these 1.0 topics people who claim to have been there keep bringing up fallacies regurgitated and repeated by people who weren't there to begin with. It's like the ET caused the video game crash of 83 all over again, but FFXIV 1.0 edition. There were a lot of things wrong with 1.0, but don't just blindly parrot Yoshida's one comment in an interview, completely out of context, or make up reasons when there are plenty legit ones to be had, and even a few things the game did better than it does now.

    The reason Yoshida said it'd be a Nightmare has more to do with the fact they don't have 1.0 or even 1.23's version files and source as they used to be just lying around, the fact most of the 1.0 staff is gone which made and would make documentation a ginormous pain, all this for a version of XIV that was never going to (and wouldn't if brought back) appeal to a post WoW era player audience. And the risk of giving the wrong image for players who would go into the hypothetical classic server and judge XIV based on it instead of the newer version. There was also the concern of players who would fail to understand the circumstances would blame the dev team for the legacy bugs, performance and design problems.
    Furthermore very few producers understand the appeal of game preservation. There are always some niche audience that wishes they had access to older versions of games. Offline or online. But with online games the unfortunate reality is that most of the time that's at the complete mercy of the publisher, hence why you get multiple topics like this one asking for either a "classic" server or a recreation of cutscenes or playable form of it. And it's a shame even when they have no intention of doing anything at all with it they won't even leave it to others to do the work.
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    Last edited by ReynTime; 12-21-2021 at 02:54 AM.

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    As one who played 1.0 and knows how terrible it was... NO
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    I have a secret to tell. From my electrical well. It's a simple message and I'm leaving out the whistles and bells. So the room must listen to me Filibuster vigilantly. My name is blue canary one note* spelled l-i-t-e. My story's infinite Like the Longines Symphonette it doesn't rest- TMBG Birdhouse in your Soul
    A huge THANK YOU!!!! For FINALLY selling the Meteor Survivor Polo on the store. AND a huge thanks to my friend who bought it for me while he was at Fan Fest!!! YES I finally have my POLO!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    As one who played 1.0 and knows how terrible it was... NO
    A handful of cutscenes and quests connected to trials and content that already exists like Running Ifrit once or Nael van Darnus.
    That’s too much to ask for even with the systems we have now? The gripe with 1.0 isn’t story because all that back story has built on the game you know today. The problem back then was the systems. You’re saying that you don’t want a few story relevant cutscenes and quests in NG+ that is completely optional for you to do? K. Cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    As one who played 1.0 and knows how terrible it was... NO
    I have never played it so i want to experience how bad it was. :3


    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    I have never played it so i want to experience how bad it was. :3


    Cheers
    I’m also tired of people saying how bad it was. It was actually really good in a lot of ways, especially when 1.14 brought the job system.

    The bad was that you needed a PC that could handle it, maps were redundant and didn’t have landmarks or notable locations, released early, oceans of retainers, and lots of inconsistencies and bugs early on and no driving content was prepared. The style of the gameplay was actually quite fun to me, your characters had weight so the realm in some ways felt more immersive. Instead of not having belts, the belts were actually visible equipment. Back then I actually made friends and cared about grouping. Since ARR I have been NOTHING but solo and lonely. If the engine wasn’t so difficult to work with I would have preferred we stayed in that system, but I’m also happy and thankful with what we have today. There’s alot bad to say about 1.0 but honestly there is a ton of good to say about it too. One of the touches that i liked back then was the unique animations when equipping a job stone like I’m a Power Ranger, they cut that out in ARR instead we just flash and change gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    As one who played 1.0 and knows how terrible it was... NO
    You're not missing much...honestly. We did a lot of fetch quests, stood around while our Path Companion did all the talking, then played a "dodge the aoe" mini game while the Scions faught Gaius for us...thats really it.
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