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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Cure III is absolutely rubbish now. You'd never bring a WHM over an AST for Cure III. The only reason people bring WHM over AST is gameplay. AST is a pain to play with all the useless new oGCD's to juggle and WHM is straightforward. It's a badly designed, weak healer, but it's still more fun.

    Unfortunately the same applies to SCH. As long as SCH has a clunky fairy to micromanage and pays tax for Aether heals while Sage has no gimmick and fires oGCD's out for free, it'll be more popular. Potency buffs won't change much. SCH already has a solid toolkit, it's just clunky to play and players don't enjoy that.
    that was just an example, WHM still has more on demand GCD pure heal than AST which is a niche that may be used in a fight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sighearth View Post
    that was just an example, WHM still has more on demand GCD pure heal than AST which is a niche that may be used in a fight
    WHM literally only has Cure III over AST and there is no niche for Cure III. There is nowhere you need to spam it. There wasn't in ShB either and now we have buffed heals and abilities specifically designed to handle back to back raid damage. Cure III doesn't even beat Plenary + Lily. That's assuming your party is neatly stacked for you, in Duty Finder you might as well take it off your bar because 9 times out of 10 everyone is scattered.

    AST has tons of burst heal with Star, Macrocosmos, Neutral Sect, CoOpp, CU, Horoscope Helios and AspHelios (which is now 1000 total potency). That niche situation once a fight on Savage where multiple Cure III might seem like it's useful, an AST can heal three times over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    WHM literally only has Cure III over AST and there is no niche for Cure III. There is nowhere you need to spam it. There wasn't in ShB either and now we have buffed heals and abilities specifically designed to handle back to back raid damage. Cure III doesn't even beat Plenary + Lily. That's assuming your party is neatly stacked for you, in Duty Finder you might as well take it off your bar because 9 times out of 10 everyone is scattered.

    AST has tons of burst heal with Star, Macrocosmos, Neutral Sect, CoOpp, CU, Horoscope Helios and AspHelios (which is now 1000 total potency). That niche situation once a fight on Savage where multiple Cure III might seem like it's useful, an AST can heal three times over.
    Hmm terminal relativity, Adds enrage phase in TEA are some examples that cure 3 is pretty strong. Aside from that, yea AST has more free healing oGCD healing (way more) but at least WHM dps is much better than AST. In the case of SGE/SCH imagine if WHM did more dps than AST but also healed more.
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