Dark Knight Megathread

[Undeadfire]

Paladin had no self heal sustain for years starting from ARR, punished for losing health and never got any till this Xpac, don't even mention Clemency.

It is madness granting it more buffs to suit the individual.

We don't need another tank that's essentially better than every other tank in everyway. Warrior was only stronger healing in SHBs, but that's it, useless at adapting everything else. GNB in SHBs was stupidly OP.

[Deathshiro]

I wont entertain this again because I'm unsure if you are trolling or not at this point.

It is madness granting it more buffs to suit the individual.

It's to bring it in line with the other 3 tanks that have (quite literally) up to 2000+ potency of healing in ogcds that not only cost a grand total of nothing, BUT dont require full value to get effectiveness out of their usage(as opposed to TBN which requires 100% value or it hurts the player's gameplay)

We don't need another tank that's essentially better than every other tank in everyway

We don't need another that's worse in everyway either defensively or offensively. DRK is even with the other tanks in damage, maybe not on AVERAGE, but in the hands of the right players a 3-4% difference is much better than what we had in previous expansions in terms of balance (outside ShB)

With that said, in a more constructive manner. I'll say it once and i'll sing it to the heavens until it happens: DRK needs 5 charges on Blood weapon to not force SKS melds - Needs a form of ogcd healing that doesn't require a DPS resource (like the other 3 tanks) - Living Dead needs an adjustment to its HP threshold and/or once fully healed, allow the invuln state to still last the full duration (10s) like... again all the other tanks.

[Kalaam]

We shouldn't expect any change outside of value tweaking. So stuff like cooldown increase/decrease, potencies etc.
We could have a fairly heavy rework, but I wouldn't expect something like turning DarkSide into a spendable ressource until 7.0.

I would love stuff like Dark Art to come back, to change abilities like Unmend into Sole Survivor, Hard Slash into Scourge, TBN into a stronger version that has no reward.
To have DRK feel like a fast weaponskill based tank, to feel the weight of swinging that big sword around, I'm really missing this.

[Kiryyn]

Paladin had no self heal sustain for years starting from ARR, punished for losing health and never got any till this Xpac, don't even mention Clemency.

It is madness granting it more buffs to suit the individual.

We don't need another tank that's essentially better than every other tank in everyway. Warrior was only stronger healing in SHBs, but that's it, useless at adapting everything else. GNB in SHBs was stupidly OP.

Just so we're clear "the individual" being the masses of people saying DRK needs work and buffs because it FEELS TERRIBLE to play? You're awful persistent about talking down Paladin like it has so many flaws but it's been the most balanced of any, and I dare say that it was the best tank for the *majority of the population*. Never had to worry about anything playing as Paladin. You can bring up all the logs you want - but as a player who plays for enjoyment rather than "clearing X trials", paladin has FELT good for a long time. You even made a thread saying to stop making more DRK threads - if you could just stop posting your invalid DRK opinions, that would be great. You're literally comparing the most in need of a work to probably the most reliable tank.

And you say not to even mention Clemency as if that isn't a heal in it's kit that IS STRONG - lolwut? Troll much?

As for SHBs:
Warrior: strong heal but lack everything else (your words - and I'll agree here)
GNB:"stupidly OP" (your words - and I'll agree here as well)
Paladin: Works without healer due to Clemency. Most well balanced of all, as tanks should be.
DRK: Still broken.

Furthermore - you keep bringing up the past like we're not several expansions in the future right now. Just because Paladin didn't have self sustain back then according to you doesn't mean that DRK can't have self-sustain now.