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    Quote Originally Posted by ApeKing View Post
    Honestly they have the right to question it. No one can claim to be an expert in a field and just be immediately believed on an internet forum. It mean's piss-all. That doesn't just mean YOU though so dont take it the wrong way. There are a few OTHER examples here as well (wont name names)
    I understand. Its just concerning people would rather comment on my current employment rather than the actual problem that was supposed to be discussed all along.
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  2. #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApeKing View Post
    Honestly they have the right to question it. No one can claim to be an expert in a field and just be immediately believed on an internet forum. It mean's piss-all. That doesn't just mean YOU though so dont take it the wrong way. There are a few OTHER examples here as well (wont name names)
    I only brought it up my job because of the lady of IT industry claiming that she's in the know. So I figured I would try to prove that I am also in the know. Thats all.
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    Logging off for the night. Thanks Apeking for being the moderator of this insane thread. Ill return tomorrow to see what havoc has been unleashed. Take care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekurity View Post
    I only brought it up my job because of the lady of IT industry claiming that she's in the know. So I figured I would try to prove that I am also in the know. Thats all.
    Never respond to a claim with a claim. Either believe them or disregard it.
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    This is my worse experience with FF14 ever, so much so im willing to never play it again. So many other quality games that work well out there to waste time on this.

    I have not been able to log in since EW launch... Does anyone have any tips before i get rid of this game forever.

    Literally time out before the queue gets anywhere near 0... Moving to a new server doesnt sound like it will help if the queue are worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayeffle View Post
    This is my worse experience with FF14 ever, so much so im willing to never play it again. So many other quality games that work well out there to waste time on this.

    I have not been able to log in since EW launch... Does anyone have any tips before i get rid of this game forever.

    Literally time out before the queue gets anywhere near 0... Moving to a new server doesnt sound like it will help if the queue are worse.
    The only thing you can really do is get on early in the day and stay on. If you don't have the ability to do that, there's not much else you can do. That's what I did all last weekend.

    The queues are still booting people and not saving their position. I know that because it just happened to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayeffle View Post
    This is my worse experience with FF14 ever, so much so im willing to never play it again. So many other quality games that work well out there to waste time on this.

    I have not been able to log in since EW launch... Does anyone have any tips before i get rid of this game forever.

    Literally time out before the queue gets anywhere near 0... Moving to a new server doesnt sound like it will help if the queue are worse.

    It's not really a solution or tip, and I totally agree that this sucks, but I think just take the weekend off before you make any decisions about your future with the game. I spent today not even trying to queue and it did do me a lot of good. (And I was in the same emotional boat as you, about 5 minutes away from unsubbing, etc) As frustrating as this is, I sincerely think there's not much that can be done in the immediate future about it, unfortunately.
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    Yeah I do hear you and you raise a great point. Its just frustrating, i'll try another server if this keeps up for a couple more days.. I appreciate your comments basil.
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  9. #159
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziplda View Post
    You really are a piece of work aren't ya? Nulstat
    So I've been told, yeah. Fine art, usually - but most times I feel like an abstract installation.

    First of all none of the games mentioned had such errors as 2002 and 3001 and all the others. That is the main complaint.
    Yes, they did. Those codes are still in other companies, they're just different numbers. World of Warcraft had an issue much like this back in Warlords. Same issues, different codes. It's been a while since I've been anywhere near a WoW queue, but I do remember the 519's. Every expansion launch - and yes, right back to the back of the 10k+ queues, every time.

    You think people don't deserve to play a game they bought. You think they don't deserve to play when they want too, or at least be in the queue and be able to keep their positions.
    You are the type of white knights I despise the most. Also, about these games you're talking about. Not every server had a queue that took a couple hours and had errors run them out of the queue. Not consistently and not for this long. So stop bringing up the queues because that really isn't the issue at hand, it's the errors that happen while people are in queue.
    It's not my place to say if people deserve something or not. On the contrary, I would very much like everyone to be able to play, and from experience I know that with a little patience... they will be able to play. I am, however, absolutely within my right to point out that they sound quite entitled for a minor inconvenience - and it is a minor inconvenience, as the OP is already 90 on a class in spite of the queue issues. Conveniently, I notice you are also 90. So he has clearly been able to play longer than some - including myself. Which is fine, but please don't assume that I don't want people playing; I do... and while we're at it, please do not sit at max level and speak for the people who can't get in. I can speak for myself, enduring the same queues that have prevented me from playing the game I also paid for. I don't need your indignation; it's shallow.

    In addition, I'm bringing up the queues because that's the thread topic. The OP posted about the queue in his first post. In fact, he never mentions disconnects at all, let alone in regards to the errors - but he does bring up the queue and the semi-conductors. I do note that the OP praised this reply, and after having him be quite upset that his words were being taken out of context, I'm quite disappointed to see that he wouldn't stand up for himself and correct you like he seems to be more than happy to do with anyone who offers him a fair rebuttal.

    Secondly, Your semi-conductors excuse is a valid and legit excuse to have, but the fact is SE release a game that half of the community can't get on. Unless they alter their sleeping schedules or take time off of work. WHICH IS UNACCEPTABLE ANYWHERE. Yes I used caps. All you white knights or people that like to stick up for this kind of behavior from companies like to say well just wait and then come back while the rest of the people can enjoy the game, you'll get all the story spoiled for you and you'll have people clear the dungeons and raids. Because like you said the Semi-conductors are the problem. Isn't the stock for those supposed to be out for the next 6 months? Or are you saying that because people will get fed up with having to wait in queues to be constantly kicked out or baby sit the queues to get in? I get it you could careless about the player base as a whole. As long as you're right about what you're opinion, because that's all it is. An opinion some facts spread in there.
    I agree; I do find it quite unacceptable for people to shuffle their schedules around to play a video game. I also acknowledge that it's the choice they, personally, make. To be clear, I also think that taking time off to play a video game is also pretty scummy, but I acknowledge that my opinion is through the lens of someone who worked in industries where the lack of one person was felt by the whole, and was often called in on my days off to replace people who had called out for this reason. People work for their time off, they should be able to use it however they like, and I can respect that even if I don't agree with the reasons. However, that is still choice. There is no requirement, here. It's quite easy to just go do something else while things get fixed, and they do get fixed. The game still exists, it's still online, we'll be able to play just fine sooner or later.

    I don't exactly have an inside link to the industry, so I can't speak for when the shortages are set to ease up - but industry experts are saying that 2022 looks good for supply to start to rise, with 2024 seeing normal output. Of course, we could always have another pandemic cause another upset, we don't know the future.

    Thirdly, People have a right to be upset and want a refund if they want. One like i said before they WILL have the story spoiled for them. Especially if they have social media with connections with FFXIV. I bet you'll say "Well duh get off of those sites." Aren't you the smartest crayon in the box. Let me digress though and continue. The servers are the problem, but to get into the game the servers have to work. And again other MMO's had queues. But most if not all as long as you waited out the queue you would be the in the game. What I would do while waiting for the queue. Again you have to baby sit this one.
    I've never had the story spoiled for me. That isn't to say that it's never going to happen, but I've taken the steps to make sure that it doesn't happen. I've surrounded myself with good people who understand that we all want to get there on our own time - heck, I have to be careful not to spoil things for a few members of my FC that joined very close to EW release and are still progressing through ShB. Spoilers are rather easy to avoid, it just takes a little effort.

    Yes. I've had to babysit every queue I've been in. That's the point of a queue. If you aren't there, you don't get a spot saved. Now, it is frustrating when something happens outside of your control and you end up losing your spot even though you were right there, and I do agree that it can be intensely frustrating when that happens and I'm not saying that it's foolish to be upset about it, but you have the choice to get back into queue and take a gamble on the risk it might happen again, or acknowledge that maybe you'd rather do something else than risk it. The queues here are a fraction of the size of what I was frequently disconnected from in WoW, so yeah. I can wait patiently with everyone else.

    number 4, Your whole stick about "This isn't your work. This is comfort, and it is optional." No no no no. If I pay for something I expect it to work. Period. I expect from a game and all games that I should be able to get in at the moments I want to play. Sub is counted in days. 24 hour period for each day. Not in the morning and not at late late night. When I want too. and Yes since I paid for this service or object or whatever. I expect me to be able to use it. To me this is a hobby and it is my biggest stress reliever. Always has been. You got a problem with it I really don't care, because this is my life and I can do what I want with it. I bet if your internet didn't always work and you could only use it reliably in the morning or late night you would be mad about it.
    If I pay for something, I also expect it to work. I also expect that sometimes, it won't. Technology is tenuous, and I've enough experience in it to understand that you can do everything right and sometimes it just doesn't matter. I also understand that even if I pay for something, something can prevent me from accessing it. The reality is that sometimes it's not available, even if I pay for it. Again, this is something that you sign as an agreement before you even play the game. You're literally signing off on the fact that you understand that the service will have interruptions, and that you accept this.

    If my internet didn't always work, I'd be fired. So, yes. I would be upset. However, I'd also make sure I covered my own bum; my employer would be aware, I'd do my best to make it online, I would change my shifts to help out if it was possible, and I would very much have my ISP with their you-know-what's in a vise, because unlike an inability access a video game I also enjoy as a hobby, the inability to do my actual work means I'm not just unable to indulge in my hobby, it also means I can't pay my bills like the internet and rent, can't feed myself (and worse, my cat), and I'm letting down a lot of people at my job. There's a difference; FFXIV is optional, my job is not.

    As a MMO veteran I am disgusted with people like you. Every gaming company needs to know what can be allowed and not. This right here shouldn't be allowed. WoW practices of making players feel like they should have to play every day shouldn't be allowed because that becomes addiction. New World and all their mess ups shouldn't be allowed. People like you let companies like them get away with this type of behavior.
    Didn't you just say how you should have complete 24 hour access to a game that you pay for? You pretty well implied that you feel like you should be playing, lest you miss something important or get something spoiled. If it's not appropriate for Blizzard to make players feel like they should be playing all the time, then why is it suddenly okay for you to be angry that you can't play all the time whenever you like in FFXIV? I can't speak for others, but I don't play WoW right now - I got tired of seeing a game I enjoyed get run into the ground, so I quit because nothing I could do would ever be able to change something outside of my control.

    I'm vastly more concerned about the other stuff going on at Blizzard - and again, when it comes to real people, that takes precedence over pixels. Your priorities don't matter to me, but I'm glad you felt like sharing.

    They should've pushed Endwalker back for the release till they had better/more servers. You don't like it because it would be a draught and you couldn't play at all. But their are people literally living in that they can't play. When they should be able too. Entitlement. I swear people like you just use words whenever you like to, to put someone down. To me you are White knighting, because you bring up other MMO's and compare them like those MMOs and FFXIV have the same problem. They don't. It does not matter if they apologize. Apologizing only goes so far.
    You can't even tolerate queues, you actually think that months of a game being delayed - a game that is pretty well finished because they delayed it two weeks - for the sake of servers would have gone over well? 'Sorry guys. The game is done, we're just waiting on the servers to get here. Unfortunately, we don't know when that's going to happen.'

    Yoshi is a great man and someone I find to be a very great role model or a hard worker and tries to do his best. SE to me is the problem. Again I don't care about your semi-conductors. I really do wish you would see it from the people who can't play.
    As someone who has actually been unable to play and does not actually have enough time logged in to have a 90 and other classes leveled, I think I can see it just fine from where I am, thank you. I can stand up just fine on my own.
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    Last edited by Nulstat; 12-11-2021 at 09:19 AM. Reason: Text limit. 2nd edit to spoiler, it's long.

  10. #160
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    Why does it matter if I have a 90 and some other classes leveled? I still can't just log on when ever I want in fact I took days off of work from my vacation allotment to do so. If I didn't have that I wouldn't be anywhere near 90.

    Also, I'm not ignorant enough to not understand how a situation is because I don't go through it. I don't need to go through pregnancy to understand that giving birth hurts. I also have to deal with the queues now that I don't have time off of work. I have to deal with the errors that is happening on all servers. I have NO PROBLEM with queues. I have a problem with the babysitting the queue and the disconnections from queues.

    So, you think if the servers were just dead didn't work at all that would be okay? because technically that would be interruptions and still count towards the agreement.

    Some people like to gear out their character and be that guy that is the most geared in dungeons or be the first to get said item or materials. Their is a lot of benefits of being at the beginning of the game when a new expansion launches.

    You see a game as optional and yes but also is paying for rent, and all utilities. You could go live in the forest and live out there. These things are also optional. You do them because they provide you comfort and safety from outside world. But you could also do the same in the forest if you learn to survive out there. I mean people do it.

    I think Blizzard has turned to a dumpster fire of a company but I've never really had any issues with their log in servers besides the first day of launch. If there is a queue I never got booted from that queue besides my internet failing.


    and if the 2022 issue is true and lets say it happens you saying wait a month isn't going to happen. People that could get in everyday will have played it till they don't want to anymore and the others get to just sit back and wait. That is unacceptable to me. Luckily FFXIV isn't an open world PvP game because that would be even worse. z

    I will never change your mind and you won't mine. I can see your points and I can see why you have them. My worry is that people like you that give games a pass because simply we can play it later is setting a stage for where gaming companies don't have to care how they release a game as long as they put an agreement to cover their butt.
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