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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
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    I'm actually going to take off my glasses and be serious for once here. Because suicide is a thing. And it's affected me more times than I care to count.

    So.... I do agree to an extent that some kind of warning usually should be posted. I would also like to point out that video games prior to launching them posts blanketed disclaimers that "Has scenes of nudity, sexuality, alcohol consumption, violence etc etc"

    While I will never ever discount trigger warnings or thoughts of suicide, the blanketed statement I feel is enough of a warning to know what you'll potentially get into when going into any kind of game. That particular scene I would label as "violence - general" because suicide in of itself is a form of violence. Regardless of what one may think. The WHO declared it as "Self Directed Violence" hence the blanketed warning of violence.

    Ref: https://www.who.int/violence_injury_...dviolfacts.pdf

    I do want to make that part clear, despite my often posting against sarcasm and trolls etc. These are one of the few topics I'll ever take seriously 100%.

    I'm sorry that you've endured things in your life and I truly, honestly hope that you have a network of support at your side. Just remember... you are loved. You are valuable. This goes for everyone who has ever had to struggle with thoughts or experiences like this.


    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I hope this is bait because it's ridiculous.
    As for you... I certainly hope you never have to go thru the pain of losing someone who took their own life. And if you have, then have some empathy. Not everyone here is a troll and out to get you.

    Chill the hell out and grow the f**k up.
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    Last edited by MaikoRaines; 12-09-2021 at 04:53 AM. Reason: National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-TALK

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaikoRaines View Post
    As for you... I certainly hope you never have to go thru the pain of losing someone who took their own life. And if you have, then have some empathy. Not everyone here is a troll and out to get you.

    Chill the hell out.
    Thanks for ignoring the part where I pointed out that this is far from the first time the game has something like this. We got our trigger warnings several years ago.

    And I have known loss but I don't venture into media that I know has a reputation for showing subject matter that is disturbing to me. FFXIV has a strong reputation for dealing with the many unkind realities about death, and this is not new at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Thanks for ignoring the part where I pointed out that this is far from the first time the game has something like this.
    Trust me. I didn't ignore a thing. It's called empathy. Not everyone understands the warnings that also serve as a blanketed statement hence my explanation and the resources I posted. Not everyone thinks suicide is a form of violence.

    It doesn't mean you have to be an absolute dick about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaikoRaines View Post
    Not everyone understands the warnings
    What, like how Zenos killed himself? Haurchefant's blood spilling from his mouth as he says his last words with a hole in his torso? Tesleen's horrific death in which she was mutated into an abomination and literally vomited while doing so? Those are not good enough warnings about how death can be brutal in the game? Seriously?

    If the above cannot warn someone then nothing will.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaikoRaines View Post
    It doesn't mean you have to be an absolute dick about it.
    I'm that for saying the game has a reputation for how it deals with death and that this is far from the first time we see something like this? For stating simple facts? Really?

    This thread is like someone complaining that Scream 3 has people killed in frightening ways after they had already watched Scream 1 and 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaikoRaines View Post
    I'm sorry that you've endured things in your life and I truly, honestly hope that you have a network of support at your side. Just remember... you are loved. You are valuable. This goes for everyone who has ever had to struggle with thoughts or experiences like this.
    congrats, the OP successfully trolled you
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaikoRaines View Post
    As for you... I certainly hope you never have to go thru the pain of losing someone who took their own life. And if you have, then have some empathy. Not everyone here is a troll and out to get you.

    Chill the hell out and grow the f**k up.
    I have, and I've struggled with depression to the point of suicide. Growing the f**k up involves being able to handle triggers. It is not the job of everyone else to make sure I'm fine and nothing offends or bothers me. It is up to me to control such for my own health and well being. I'm so glad I stopped going to therapy before all this trigger warning bulls**t began to be pushed. I've seen it simply reinforce the depression and triggers rather than help over come them.

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    This entire expansion is all about the fact that life has suffering, pain, depression, despair and about not letting it decide your fate. Take an actual lesson from the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nothv13 View Post
    I have, and I've struggled with depression to the point of suicide. Growing the f**k up involves being able to handle triggers.
    You, along with like 4-5 other people clearly missed the part about how I was saying there was no need to add trigger warnings because suicide is already labled as a form of violence. Instead, you and the others who choose to just focus on what you want to and not the entire post.

    If you decided to actually read my point about not adding a trigger warning because it's labled under violence in general, you'd have no need to jump on a bandwagon in the first place.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaikoRaines View Post
    So.... I do agree to an extent that some kind of warning usually should be posted. I would also like to point out that video games prior to launching them posts blanketed disclaimers that "Has scenes of nudity, sexuality, alcohol consumption, violence etc etc" While I will never ever discount trigger warnings or thoughts of suicide, the blanketed statement I feel is enough of a warning to know what you'll potentially get into when going into any kind of game. That particular scene I would label as "violence - general" because suicide in of itself is a form of violence. Regardless of what one may think. The WHO declared it as "Self Directed Violence" hence the blanketed warning of violence
    I seriously hate these forums sometimes. People only want to focus on what pisses them off and not the full statement.
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