The Problems With Ninja In Endwalker

[Shinun]

Out of curiosity, has anyone actually played with the raijus yet? After all of the whining in this thread, I wonder how they actually play. (Of course, I don't expect anyone to come back and say that they were wrong, but I'm still curious.)

I'm only 85, but Phantom Kamaitachi feels very awkward to me on the GCD. Maybe it will feel better once I get used to it, but it really feels like it should have been an oGCD in the former Assassinate slot. The ability itself is sweet, but feels like it could have been an oGCD as the clone goes off and does the actual move. That being said, it's still a fun button to press into a group. (It's not Goka Mekkyaku fun, but then again what is?)

I enjoy the Raiju's but you press that button so much now. Phantom felt awkward at first for me, but with Raiju's it kind of just feels like an ender during my burst since Bunshin 5 ticks go towards 4 Raiju's+Phantom.

[Equitable_Remedy]

I enjoy the Raiju's but you press that button so much now. Phantom felt awkward at first for me, but with Raiju's it kind of just feels like an ender during my burst since Bunshin 5 ticks go towards 4 Raiju's+Phantom.

Hmm, that's interesting. I do like ninjutsu + ninjutsu-adjacent things, but I'll have to see how it feels.

[Equitable_Remedy]

Phantom felt awkward at first for me

Interestingly, I switched around the keybind for Phantom Kamaitachi, and it feels better to push. I originally bound it to the key that had been for Assassinate, and I think that I subconsciously anticipated Phantom being an oGCD even though I knew that it wasn't.

Moved to a different keybind, and it feels much more reasonable. I'm still a ways from that chidori life, so we'll see.

At this point, it's hard for me to differentiate between something that I don't like and something that's simply new and foreign.

[HappyHubris]

At this point, it's hard for me to differentiate between something that I don't like and something that's simply new and foreign.

Thoughtfulness on the DPS forums? Heresy! New is bad!

[dadong]

I got ninja to level 90, and it feels really bad to play tbh. I can live with the huton/ hurajin changes but raiju combo is the biggest problem.

At this point even if they fix it by allowing you to use weapon skills after raiton it still unfun to use. I can't imagine anyone thinking spaming 1 button 4 times as a finisher to 2 raitons is riveting gameplay.

It adds alot of unnecessary bloat to an otherwise very fun rotation. The only way I can see this being fun is allowing you to hold on to the ability and make it 1 gcd instead of 2 and or have it only executable on 3 ration stacks as a big finisher.

I personally find no joy in the ninja currently and am probably gonna move onto another job for EW. It's a shame though I really loved maining ninja though shadowbringers.