The Problems With Ninja In Endwalker

[Kiteless]

Some of the more recent comments have been encouraging enough to put me back on track to trying NIN in Endwalker after originally planning to shelf it, but there's still a few things that I just don't get. I've just started levelling it, but some things already stick out.

Mainly, Phantom Kamaitachi just feels like a complete waste of a skill. At least with the Raiju's it looks like Square was trying for something. Kamaitachi looks like a completely negligible gain. Some quick math looks like you'd end up with you possibly gaining around 130 potency over 90 seconds (although potentially losing 5 ninki to do so). That just seems so worthless, and a waste of a skill slot. Am I missing something here?

[Noraiga]

Just hit lvl90 aaaand... I like and dislike Raiju, my only BIG issue with it is clearly the impossibility to use any weaponskill !!
Also DEV TEAM pleaaaaase enhance the damn SOUND EFFECT ! Raiju doesn't sound impactful at all... Nor Bavakhacra, i never said anything about Bava when first introduce but man some job sound effect are really bad.

Dev team please = Bava + Raiju => enhance sound effect, Raiju => possibility to use any weaponskill ;

Thanks you by advance, hoping you do so !!

Yes Kamaitachi feel pretty clunky to use.

[Jaygue]

500% agree with your first posts and the last about the potencies and the buff about raiju. I love ninja but without buff...i will change my main i think

[Fourbestintoner]

My actual opinion of raiju is that it being a gcd or breaking 1-2-3 is actually perfectly fine, but that it should not take you out of max melee, it should stay a gap closer, but it shouldn't make you jump inside the asshole of the bosses, especially since like promise every single mechanics has been *stand at max melee to not eat shit*.

[Krausus]

When i first seen these abilities during the class showcase I thought one would be a gap closer and the other a gap opener, which I thought was pretty cool. But the reality is 2 back to back gap closers that you lose if you use any other weaponskill seems pointless. What is the point of having multiple charges without a reason to close the gap. Sure you can use Shukuchi to make a gap but as a controller player that is super awkward (maybe if there was a macro to make Shukuchi a gap opener like there is to make it a gap closer would make this better). I think the simple fix for this is make it to where using a weaponskill doesn't remove your charges. I would go one further and make it to where using ninjutsu doesn't activate its GCD, that way you can use it immediately after using Raiton. As is you can almost run to the target after catting Raiton before you can even use Forked

[YourBoii]

Yea, I agree with most on the issue with Raiju. If the restriction of "can't use other weapon skills" was taken away, it would most definitely fix the issue for me. I couldn't wait to get to 90 to get the new skill to sadly only feeling disappointed once I did. I had so much high hopes for the new skills. As it stands, I feel it almost single handedly sucked the life out of my favorite class and made it less fun to play for me. I'm probably going to shelve Ninja and play Reaper till hopefully this is addressed. Please fix this :-(

[Anhra]

I think the removal of Shadowfang was a decent choice, it was kind of awkward in the NIN rotation and mostly just fluff dmg. If anything, NIN should get more multi-hit skills like Dream within a Dream (that also come to some degree, with animationlocks to increase Skillcap, but thats just my take on it) for the oldschool feel of Final Fantasy Ninjas.

Also, Which genius thought changing assassinate into this current mess was a good idea? If anything, NIN should get more ways to interact with ShB assassinate, not multiple ways to reapply freaking Huton. Applying it with Ninjutsus, Ten Chi Jin or Kassatsu (but dont tell anyone i ever said this) are more than enough ways to reapply it and keeping it up with Armor Crush was more than sufficient.

Also, the Shukiho III Trait is literally just a filler Ability, cmon Squeenix, you can do better than that.


RIP ShB NIN, you're going to be missed dearly.

[RyuuZero]

well for me I timed Shadowfang with Trickattack, like I saw that Shadowfang was Up Okay Trickattack Time
and yes Shukiho III is quite a waste I'd rather have it that my Toad triggers Hollow instead ^^

[Raikai]

well for me I timed Shadowfang with Trickattack, like I saw that Shadowfang was Up Okay Trickattack Time
and yes Shukiho III is quite a waste I'd rather have it that my Toad triggers Hollow instead ^^

But that's the thing... old Shadowfang should always be timed with trick attack due to the cooldown it had. Once you learn this, it becomes braindead as in just yet another button to push during the TA window. There's no room for thought there and Shadowfang didn't interact with anything else. If it was just a frontload damage action it would be the same.

Generally, a dot's defining gameplay is around the caveat of having to babysit them, procure the right timings to refresh and maybe mind snapshotting them to smaller buff windows. If a dot has a duration of 60s and a recast timer of 60s it becomes pointless as a dot, especially if your job is equipped with a 60s window buff.

[YourBoii]

This is my first expansión lanuch and i was wondering how soon do they do job balance updates typically? Mainly, because I dont want to waste my raid/extreme gear tokens/coffers on ninja now if it's gonna stay this way for a while before things are addressed. For me specifically hopefully taking the lost of Raiju using weapon skills away.