I don't accept your apology

[Venjamin]

Maybe you should read my entire post, hmm? Particularly that part where I literally said that it needs to be more reliable and the grace period longer, eh?

The rest of your post doesn't erase the dismissive and superior nature of "We keep TELLING them it's THERE."

It isn't there if it isn't there consistently, so maybe don't?

[Souyo]

The rest of your post doesn't erase the dismissive and superior nature of "We keep TELLING them it's THERE."

It isn't there if it isn't there consistently, so maybe don't?

I'm hearing something about Schrodinger's Queue Placeholder in this somewhere.

[Lanadra]

The rest of your post doesn't erase the dismissive and superior nature of "We keep TELLING them it's THERE."

It isn't there if it isn't there consistently, so maybe don't?

I said that in a normal manner of fact way of speaking, you're the one editing the way my post was made to make it seem like I'm trying to mock Jadedsins. Do yourself a favor and stop.

[Venjamin]

I said that in a normal manner of fact way of speaking, you're the one editing the way my post was made to make it seem like I'm trying to mock Jadedsins. Do yourself a favor and stop.

No, it seems like you're mocking or downplaying the people who are upset about a system that doesn't work?

[CazzT]

I said that in a normal manner of fact way of speaking, you're the one editing the way my post was made to make it seem like I'm trying to mock Jadedsins. Do yourself a favor and stop.

The edit emphasizes the words that are naturally emphasized when people read that. You are coming across as arrogant and dismissive.

Dozens upon dozens of people are saying they are logging back in within 15-30 seconds after a 2002 or 4004 and they're at the back of the line again.

From my own personal experience, this happens 99% of the time I get booted due to an error. Do I agree a system is in place? Yes. But it's clearly not functioning properly. Whether that's due to not giving enough grace period or some other back end issue that's dropping people from their spot in the line, I don't know. But I can see from my end that it is not working the way it should.

And your statement of "we keep telling them it's there" is dismissive of people like myself telling you it's happening to us. And it's being said in an arrogant way.

[Lanadra]

The edit emphasizes the words that are naturally emphasized when people read that. You are coming across as arrogant and dismissive.

Dozens upon dozens of people are saying they are logging back in within 15-30 seconds after a 2002 or 4004 and they're at the back of the line again.

From my own personal experience, this happens 99% of the time I get booted due to an error. Do I agree a system is in place? Yes. But it's clearly not functioning properly. Whether that's due to not giving enough grace period or some other back end issue that's dropping people from their spot in the line, I don't know. But I can see from my end that it is not working the way it should.

And your statement of "we keep telling them it's there" is dismissive of people like myself telling you it's happening to us. And it's being said in an arrogant way.

You're.. misquoting me. Which is part of what I've been trying to tell Venjamin I take issue with. It's very easy to be all like 'oh you come off like this' when even the very words I said are changed to make it look worse, when words and a different sentence structure are put into my mouth. Again, you aren't even properly quoting something I said, instead quoting a sentence I did not post in that manner.

[Venjamin]

You're.. misquoting me. Which is part of what I've been trying to tell Venjamin I take issue with. It's very easy to be all like 'oh you come off like this' when even the very words I said are changed to make it look worse, when words and a different sentence structure are put into my mouth. Again, you aren't even properly quoting something I said, instead quoting a sentence I did not post in that manner.

Okay, then let's use your exact words, rather than my abridging your meaning. My apologies for condensing it, even if it doesn't change the tone in which it's read.

"And we keep telling them, it does that already."

"We keep telling them, it's already there."

Still dismissive. Still condescending. It puts you in a position of authority / correctness over these poor misguided people who are clearly not having the issues they're claiming to have.

Or again, that's just how it reads. You aren't the person to tell them 'it does that already' when it does not do that already.

Pardon me for abridging your speech, and complaining that "it is getting so very tiring to see people talk as if it isn't there at all."

Better?

[Lanadra]

Okay, then let's use your exact words, rather than my abridging your meaning. My apologies for condensing it, even if it doesn't change the tone in which it's read.

"And we keep telling them, it does that already."

"We keep telling them, it's already there."

Still dismissive. Still condescending. It puts you in a position of authority / correctness over these poor misguided people who are clearly not having the issues they're claiming to have.

Or again, that's just how it reads. You aren't the person to tell them 'it does that already' when it does not do that already.

Pardon me for abridging your speech, and complaining that "it is getting so very tiring to see people talk as if it isn't there at all."

Better?

Yes. So.. disagreeing is 'dismissive and condescending', daring to offer a contrary perspective is bad..? Is there a particular reason that I am not allowed to say that a system that I've actively seen working and thus clearly perceive as there to be what I perceive it to be?

I say again, I also stated that it needs to be more reliable and have a larger grace period window, ergo, I am acknowledging that it is not working properly at all times for everyone. Like.. this entire time all I am seeing is people telling me I mean to convey something that I do not. If you want to point at a post of mine and say I am being a condescending twat, feel free to go back to post #12 in this thread, my first post in this thread, guilty as charged in that one.

Edit: We also seem to have a bit of a difference in perspective as well, you seem to believe that because it isn't working perfectly at all times.. the system isn't there and thus I am supposedly 'wrong'. But I do not see it that way, it is there, even if it isn't working properly at all times, it is meant to and in cases like mine, it does in fact work. Thus another part in why I disagree with your statements earlier.