I don't accept your apology

[Lunafreya]

They said even more game time might be added and here you are acting like a pissy child. You DO realize that the game will be totally fine next week most likely when everyone is done the expansion right?

[Vahlnir]

They said even more game time might be added and here you are acting like a pissy child. You DO realize that the game will be totally fine next week most likely when everyone is done the expansion right?

The capacity issues should have been addressed years ago, to be fair. And no, this is not going to get any better for at least a few weeks.

[Akiudo]

The capacity issues should have been addressed years ago, to be fair. And no, this is not going to get any better for at least a few weeks.

what capacity issues should have been adressed years ago ? the 5 minute max "regular" login queues i had during the last 7 years or the 1 hour queues during primetime for 1 week after older expansion launches ?

people act all pissy going "square should just have bought more/better servers 5+ years ago, that they haven't done so shows they are cheapskates". sorry but i want to see you guys run a business where you spend tons of money, like "holy fuck this shit is getting really expensive with time" amounts of money to keep stuff ready for the total fringe case where your biggest competitor basically kills itself 5 years down the line meaning you suddenly have to serve 50% more customers than you could ever have reasonably expected..

[Vahlnir]

what capacity issues should have been adressed years ago ? the 5 minute max login queues i had during the last 7 years or the 1 hour queues during primetime for 1 week after older expansion launches ?

people act all pissy going "square should just have bought more/better servers 5+ years ago, that they haven't done so shows they are cheapskates". sorry but i want to see you guys run a business where you spend tons of money, like "holy fuck this shit is getting really expensive with time" amounts of money to keep stuff ready for the total fringe case where your biggest competitor basically kills itself 5 years down the line meaning you suddenly have to serve 50% more customers than you could ever have reasonably expected..

They've been using server/capacity issues as an excuse for many things over the years. This is also a huge reason for the stat squish. Now it is finally boiling over.

[Naiw]

what capacity issues should have been adressed years ago ? the 5 minute max login queues i had during the last 7 years or the 1 hour queues during primetime for 1 week after older expansion launches ?

people act all pissy going "square should just have bought more/better servers 5+ years ago, that they haven't done so shows they are cheapskates". sorry but i want to see you guys run a business where you spend tons of money, like "holy fuck this shit is getting really expensive with time" amounts of money to keep stuff ready for the total fringe case where your biggest competitor basically kills itself 5 years down the line meaning you suddenly have to serve 50% more customers than you could ever have reasonably expected..

The problem here is that you are obviously not able to see what others are seeing, you have your acceptable queue lengths- fine. Others don't, I queued for 4.5 hours yesterday before I got in at 30 past midnight my time- it's the only time I've been able to get in since this friday. I used to have queues before the launch to but it was more like 5-10 minutes which was ok.

I rather see they prioritise players with lower playtime during this period, e.g if you played for four hours and logged off, reenter the queue you would be prioritised over those with six hours playtime etc.

[Akiudo]

The problem here is that you are obviously not able to see what others are seeing, you have your acceptable queue lengths- fine. Others don't, I queued for 4.5 hours yesterday before I got in at 30 past midnight my time- it's the only time I've been able to get in since this friday. I used to have queues before the launch to but it was more like 5-10 minutes which was ok.

I rather see they prioritise players with lower playtime during this period, e.g if you played for four hours and logged off, reenter the queue you would be prioritised over those with six hours playtime etc.

you misunderstood my point it seems. i just like everyone else face queues of 8k+ people when i try to log in. i just like everyone else am effected by getting random dc's during the login process and getting thrown back to the back of the queue. that sucks and i won't say "oh yea, totally great, perfect launch" . what i am saying is that a lot of people act like square should just have bought more servers years ago so NOW this problem wouldn't exist, and to that i say sorry but no, that's not how businesses work, if they did you would call them charities.

[Naiw]

you misunderstood my point it seems. i just like everyone else face queues of 8k+ people when i try to log in. i just like everyone else am effected by getting random dc's during the login process and getting thrown back to the back of the queue. that sucks and i won't say "oh yea, totally great, perfect launch" . what i am saying is that a lot of people act like square should just have bought more servers years ago so NOW this problem wouldn't exist, and to that i say sorry but no, that's not how businesses work, if they did you would call them charities.

Ok, I'm not sure I follow your reasoning though, Square been quite offensive marketing final fantasy; they had/have a very generous trial mode and so on then stars aligned and people finally had it with Blizzard not listening to community feedback- it was never about infrastructure- the great migration happened and all budgets and projections of course got skewed, the decision was made to stop selling Final Fantasy XIV to new players for a while, that situation I can completely understand was out of the blue for Square Enix.

But this expansion- that been hyped for a long time and with past history in mind can not been a surprise, I think this situation is no one elses fault but Square Enix and it smells greed long way, but I also believe this will backlash tremendously if not sorted out, it has nothing to do being a charity, they actively baited for players- now they got them and they can't service them.

[Akiudo]

Ok, I'm not sure I follow your reasoning though, Square been quite offensive marketing final fantasy; they had/have a very generous trial mode and so on then stars aligned and people finally had it with Blizzard not listening to community feedback- it was never about infrastructure- the great migration happened and all budgets and projections of course got skewed, the decision was made to stop selling Final Fantasy XIV to new players for a while, that situation I can completely understand was out of the blue for Square Enix.

But this expansion- that been hyped for a long time and with past history in mind can not been a surprise, I think this situation is no one elses fault but Square Enix and it smells greed long way, but I also believe this will backlash tremendously if not sorted out, it has nothing to do being a charity, they actively baited for players- now they got them and they can't service them.

at least wow crashing as hard as it did couldn't have been anticipated even a year ago, given that blizz really worked hard to tank as hard as they did, like shit i'm not sure how one company can pull so many fuckups in half a year.

yes, square did miss properly preparing for the case that the perfect storm aligns as it did, people in these threads however dismiss even the possibility of "covid is at least partially making the situation worse than it would be otherwise" by arguing that square could just have upgraded years ago, and that notion is just crazy from a business perspective.

[Jadedsins]

They said even more game time might be added and here you are acting like a pissy child. You DO realize that the game will be totally fine next week most likely when everyone is done the expansion right?

Giving something I really don't care about is not going to make things better. If calling these developers out for a huge mistake is being a prissy child or karen. Than this will be the first community that I ever seen that a "Karen" is more reasonable than someone like you who lacks common sense. It reflects poorly that a "Karen" is more reasonable than you all are.


Maybe some of you need to do some reflection.