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    Daralii's Avatar
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    >despite numerous complaints and yoshida himself stating put feedback on these forums, drk still has no stacks on blood weapon and living dead still not fixed. just because it might be strongest potency doesnt make it mechanically fun which is more important
    They also got Carve and Spit and Abyssal Drain put on the same cooldown.
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    Einulfr Nothson
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    Cactuar
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    Lancer Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    They also got Carve and Spit and Abyssal Drain put on the same cooldown.
    Carve and Spit did get a nice potency buff however. Still doesn't excuse one of the only sustains of of DK being so bad it only gains over CoS in packs of 4+
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    They also got Carve and Spit and Abyssal Drain put on the same cooldown.
    To be fair, TBN is one of the strongest, if not THE strongest non-invuln tank cooldowns in the game. The fact that it's a 25% HP shield every 15s in some ways is better than something like Aurora or Equilibrium.
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    Laurence Ironraven
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    Zodiark
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    while using your mana and also being a dps loss if your shield doesn't break, dark knight being punished seems like to be a theme considering living dead too.
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    To be fair, TBN is one of the strongest, if not THE strongest non-invuln tank cooldowns in the game. The fact that it's a 25% HP shield every 15s in some ways is better than something like Aurora or Equilibrium.
    TBN is massively overrated. Massively.

    The other 3 tanks have their own version in Nascent Flash, Holy Sheltron and Heart of Corundum. They do not use your resource. They don't cost you damage if you can't get full value. 10 sec extra on the cooldown isn't that much when DRK is almost never spamming TBN every 15 sec.
    Nascent Flash in particular affects both players at once, healing more than the old Equilibrium on each, while reducing damage on top (which is functionally like a shield too). It blows TBN out of the water.

    TBN was good, but it's outdated. It's been left far behind.
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    Tex Mex
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    TBN was good, but it's outdated. It's been left far behind.
    This! I'm so tired of people thinking TBN was so amazing because the CD was 15 seconds. If you were spamming TBN every 15 seconds, you were most likely doing it wrong. The only situations were spamming it so often won't lose you damage are when tanking packs of trash mobs. TBN would be an absolutely amazing skill if it had a 25 second CD, no mana cost, and Dark Arts was just removed as a mechanic. As it is now, it is far more clunky to use than any of the other tanks short cooldown defensive CD's. I guess I shouldn't be surprised though, DRK has a lot of clunky abilities that need to be addressed. TBN, Living Dead, Blood Weapon, ugh. Glad I'm rolling PLD this expansion!
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    Quinton Lightblaze
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    To be fair, TBN is one of the strongest, if not THE strongest non-invuln tank cooldowns in the game. The fact that it's a 25% HP shield every 15s in some ways is better than something like Aurora or Equilibrium.
    I mean Blood whetting is generally all around better since there's no chance for you to be punished to use it
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