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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    To be fair, TBN is one of the strongest, if not THE strongest non-invuln tank cooldowns in the game. The fact that it's a 25% HP shield every 15s in some ways is better than something like Aurora or Equilibrium.
    TBN is massively overrated. Massively.

    The other 3 tanks have their own version in Nascent Flash, Holy Sheltron and Heart of Corundum. They do not use your resource. They don't cost you damage if you can't get full value. 10 sec extra on the cooldown isn't that much when DRK is almost never spamming TBN every 15 sec.
    Nascent Flash in particular affects both players at once, healing more than the old Equilibrium on each, while reducing damage on top (which is functionally like a shield too). It blows TBN out of the water.

    TBN was good, but it's outdated. It's been left far behind.
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    Tex Mex
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    TBN was good, but it's outdated. It's been left far behind.
    This! I'm so tired of people thinking TBN was so amazing because the CD was 15 seconds. If you were spamming TBN every 15 seconds, you were most likely doing it wrong. The only situations were spamming it so often won't lose you damage are when tanking packs of trash mobs. TBN would be an absolutely amazing skill if it had a 25 second CD, no mana cost, and Dark Arts was just removed as a mechanic. As it is now, it is far more clunky to use than any of the other tanks short cooldown defensive CD's. I guess I shouldn't be surprised though, DRK has a lot of clunky abilities that need to be addressed. TBN, Living Dead, Blood Weapon, ugh. Glad I'm rolling PLD this expansion!
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    Quinton Lightblaze
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    To be fair, TBN is one of the strongest, if not THE strongest non-invuln tank cooldowns in the game. The fact that it's a 25% HP shield every 15s in some ways is better than something like Aurora or Equilibrium.
    I mean Blood whetting is generally all around better since there's no chance for you to be punished to use it
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    Momo Kozuki
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    >healers are getting potency BUFFS on their healing despite downscaling.

    Potency buff or nerf doesn't mean much when you have the stat squish in mind. They are not necessarily stronger cuz potency is buffed or weaker cuz potency is nerfed. Healing/DPS may play relatively the same despite different in numbers between ShB and EW.
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Momo_Kozuki View Post
    Potency buff or nerf doesn't mean much when you have the stat squish in mind. They are not necessarily stronger cuz potency is buffed or weaker cuz potency is nerfed. Healing/DPS may play relatively the same despite different in numbers between ShB and EW.
    Pretty much, the only potencies that may get some gain are anything dealing with percentages, like Scholar Chain Stratagem is still 10%.
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    Jock Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Culinarian Lv 80
    Why they didn't give heal potency to Carve and Spit while abyssal drain get both HP and MP? Seems weird stuff there...
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    Sono Faolain
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    Spriggan
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    Fisher Lv 100
    WAR gets healing on Shake It Off, while DRK still has the worst party defence skill, which is also latest of them all.
    I see how it is...
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    Quinton Lightblaze
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    SMN still seems boring to play now so I guess I'm going with BLM for the story
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    Hope Sunflame
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I'm really not one to nitpick and rant much. But sometimes some things in this world confuse me.

    Like the division created between shield and regeneration healers. The same expansion this divide is made... WHM, the job most known for pure healing, gets extra charge to one of its single target shields and gains another ST shield. Sorry, this is kinda funny.

    I can't wait to hop online and change all bars for SMN. Should have saved a screenshot of the old layout.
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    Mike Aettir
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    Cerberus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    Like the division created between shield and regeneration healers. The same expansion this divide is made... WHM, the job most known for pure healing, gets extra charge to one of its single target shields and gains another ST shield. Sorry, this is kinda funny.
    In the same way the shield healers have some sort of regen. Just because they mainly focus o one type of healing, doesn't mean they will only have those types of heals.
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