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    Player lezard21's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    How is it psychotic to turn off a chat and avoid social media for a couple of days?
    Playing a social game and turning off the social aspect of it is eyebrow concerning at the very least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dracosavarian View Post
    Not going to address your views on the story save to say I disagree, it feels clear to me you haven’t gone through all of it, though I may be wrong in regards to that. I still disagree however.
    I've cleared all story content of the game, including beast tribes. All of it had been predictable or done in some manner of way before, and some of it is very cliche. This is not saying the game is bad, just not as good as people that do not consume literature or other forms of story telling media hype it up to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dracosavarian View Post
    All of that having been said, folks are right to wish to avoid spoilers. Because if they get spoiled, they are, in turn, robbed of a memory that would have been otherwise genuine and true, and held deeply within their hearts and cherished.

    Instead spoilers rob them of these moments, of these memories they would have otherwise had. I feel they are justified in wanting to minimize if not outright negate that issue entirely.
    I think these people you speak of need to be worried about other things in their life if moments in a videogame are memories held deeply in their hearts and cherished. Maybe they shouldn't be playing videogames till they sort other stuff out in their lifes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    Playing a social game and turning off the social aspect of it is eyebrow concerning at the very least.
    This has long been a hybrid of social game and single-player RPG. Shutting out one side to focus on the other is hardly remarkable.
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    It's also not like you have to go out of your way to do it. It's easy to turn off a few chat channels temporarily and then turn them back on when done with the msq. It's almost 0 effort protection against spoilers that doesn't negatively impact your experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    Playing a social game and turning off the social aspect of it is eyebrow concerning at the very least.



    I've cleared all story content of the game, including beast tribes. All of it had been predictable or done in some manner of way before, and some of it is very cliche. This is not saying the game is bad, just not as good as people that do not consume literature or other forms of story telling media hype it up to be.
    I would elaborate further then, as that is not the way your post came off initially, but rather, utterly dismissive of any viewpoint in regards to the story and others feelings about said story past your own. Your views and life is not that lived of others.

    Regardless, I still don’t agree. There is no difference in my viewpoint of closing off all chat filters in game to enjoy the story vs shutting oneself in during a winter storm and curling up to a fireplace to read a good book that just releases. You may not hold that viewpoint, and that’s fine. But I don’t. Truth be told, I’m kind of surprised by how antagonistic you are being in regards to this. But, c'est la vie. Follow your own path. I’ll follow mine.

    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post

    I think these people you speak of need to be worried about other things in their life if moments in a videogame are memories held deeply in their hearts and cherished. Maybe they shouldn't be playing videogames till they sort other stuff out in their lifes.

    Some of us work in healthcare related fields and are dealing with nightmare fuel right now in our lives. Secluded from friends, family, and overworked beyond measure. To those of us affected by such, I do not find time spent with friends and memories forged with them in this game when I cannot be around them IRL, especially with the insane work hours I pull every week, to be the thing you paint in such an abhorrent, abstract light. But rather, a way of connecting with them and a communion of our friendship and the joys we share in life together, given current circumstances.

    I would hope that you would update your viewpoint in light of this. Not all are afforded the opportunities you may find yourself blessed with. And your life circumstances are not their own, much less mine.

    Enjoy your day good soul, and be well.
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    Last edited by Dracosavarian; 12-01-2021 at 04:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    Playing a social game and turning off the social aspect of it is eyebrow concerning at the very least.
    There's a bit of context here that you're ignoring.
    As in the why people will do it.
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    I only talk to my FC mostly. Never really use chat unless comms is required to instanced content, PvP, Raids, Eureka/Bozja.
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    Player lezard21's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracosavarian View Post
    Some of us work in healthcare related fields
    I do too, I work in a pharmacy. Nice strawman attempt via sob story doe. I do hope it was sincere and not you using healthcare personnel to push your point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekaru_Infitima View Post
    My biggest fear is. Because of the media tour people already know every skill changed. Me? I main SMN but have opted NOT to look at the new skills as I want to learn it on my own and not depend on someone who jumped at leaks and already made a rotation before anyone else could.
    This itself is fine, and largely how i operate, mostly because i learn by doing and can't really pick up the feel of a rotation from a video

    However, some people jump straight into instanced content without even playing with their new buttons for a bit on a striking dummy to see what they even do. I saw a lot of streamers on the media tour try Reaper and Sage and just not have bars setup when they queued into something and were like "oh, guess i need to pull things out of my spellbook as we go, haha" and just end up being a detriment to the entire group because they didn't take the 10 minutes to read their tooltips and set up their bars.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    This itself is fine, and largely how i operate, mostly because i learn by doing and can't really pick up the feel of a rotation from a video

    However, some people jump straight into instanced content without even playing with their new buttons for a bit on a striking dummy to see what they even do. I saw a lot of streamers on the media tour try Reaper and Sage and just not have bars setup when they queued into something and were like "oh, guess i need to pull things out of my spellbook as we go, haha" and just end up being a detriment to the entire group because they didn't take the 10 minutes to read their tooltips and set up their bars.
    Tbh some of the Streamers I saw playing original Jobs from back in ARR in the media tour was pretty painful to watch.
    Nothing out of the ordinary really.

    I won't name any names but holy hell watching one of the biggest channels who actually makes guides too play MNK hurt my soul.
    Like there are actually people making guides who have a large following who are basically what you described lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    I do too, I work in a pharmacy. Nice strawman attempt via sob story doe. I do hope it was sincere and not you using healthcare personnel to push your point.

    I am not. I am stating fact. It is not being used to push a point, but rather help illustrate how time with friends in this game when work and life circumstances prevent one from being with them, can be a good thing for one’s mental health. Rather than the light you wished to portray it in.
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