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    Velnora's Avatar
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    Velnora Pharetsu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    Ya think?

    The whole premise that it is different cause you being a jerk today should go unpunished but if you're a jerk on EA day you should get punished.
    You should get punished every time you found breaking the TOS. Period.

    My point was and still is that if you are breaking the TOS, you will take the consequences for your actions.
    If you're so emotional and get heated you must spur toxic in public chat (since that's what was being discussed with this person iirc) you should probably either not type in chat or log off.
    I don't think anyone is saying a person should not be punished for breaking the ToS. The issue is the ToS is so overtly heavy handed, that it actively discourages people from socializing in an organic matter.

    Was in Malikah's Well, and the tank had level 70 gear equipped. I Imagine they had been leveling in Bozja and forgot that their gear was outdated. I've honestly done it too. It's no big deal. Yet when pointing it out, they lash out, cry "elitist" and threaten to report.

    I doubt they even did, but the fact that it's feasible to do so and something coming of it, is kind of silly.
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    Akiimi Akagane
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Velnora View Post
    I don't think anyone is saying a person should not be punished for breaking the ToS. The issue is the ToS is so overtly heavy handed, that it actively discourages people from socializing in an organic matter.

    Was in Malikah's Well, and the tank had level 70 gear equipped. I Imagine they had been leveling in Bozja and forgot that their gear was outdated. I've honestly done it too. It's no big deal. Yet when pointing it out, they lash out, cry "elitist" and threaten to report.

    I doubt they even did, but the fact that it's feasible to do so and something coming of it, is kind of silly.
    That is why we have GMs to look at chat logs. Don't respond and kick him if he's being confrontational. Telling someone their gear isn't good enough for the content you are doing is okay, it's how you say it that is important. If they lash out because you told them politely you have nothing to worry about. I really am looking at your objection to the rules as hey I want to be able to tell this person they are a moron. It's hard to see the problem people have with this because the answer is simple just be polite and if that doesn't work kick the offender or leave.
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    Rinh Neftereh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velnora View Post
    Was in Malikah's Well, and the tank had level 70 gear equipped. I Imagine they had been leveling in Bozja and forgot that their gear was outdated. I've honestly done it too. It's no big deal. Yet when pointing it out, they lash out, cry "elitist" and threaten to report.
    the best gear a tank could have at that level is either ilvl 406 and a lucky dungeon drop or a crafted ilvl 409 piece, which has worse stats than augmented scaevan if it's non-HQ and has just barely better ones if is HQ
    aug scaevan is perfectly fine up until someone unlocks the AF gear
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