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    Why was my thread about healer dps deleted?

    Look at these forums, or other places like reddit discord, or in game. It is constant bickering, blaming healers because they didn't heal or didn't dps, healers blaming others for taking damage. I wanted to share an idea that could finally remove the need for that toxicity and allow all players to be happy.

    I don't know if I'm more upset at the moderators or the people who report me. Even though the constant comments who say I am crap or trolling or blabbering, I just tried to ignore and didn't report it. I thought that even though it was really hurtful, if that is what they want to say about me, fine, let them say it. Tbh I didn't even want to comment anymore because of those comments, but then they started talking like that about someone else too, so I felt like I had to say something about it. Why are those comments allowed but my argument not?

    Healer is already a stressful role, if you die, or miss a heal, or even didn't deal enough dps, it can all easily cause a wipe. Why do we have to yell at each other so and make it even worse? What is so wrong to ask for less stress in a game we use to forget about irl?
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    Last edited by lisaa; 11-28-2021 at 12:35 PM.

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    Bro, the thread itself was toxic, and you knew it was toxic. But, in your infinite wisdom, you decided to post it anyway to get your rocks off on rustling some healer jimmies.

    Don't play innocent or coy. You know exactly what you did.
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    Ideal state of tanks: You cannot hurt me in any way that matters
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    Ideal state of healers: What did you say? Honey, hold my flower.

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    Ask yourself the right questions.
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    Tbh I was thinking of posting a duplicate thread where I convert every line about healing into one about DPS but this was an even better outcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inhaledcorn View Post
    Bro, the thread itself was toxic, and you knew it was toxic. But, in your infinite wisdom, you decided to post it anyway to get your rocks off on rustling some healer jimmies.

    Don't play innocent or coy. You know exactly what you did.
    It's toxic because it differed from the rest of this forum? Or because you think because I have high parses I have to love dpsing? Even though if I didn't you'd just call me a Sylphie instead?

    No, you're right it's because I just find it so entertaining to get called a troll or spewing bullshit or blabbering nonsense or just dismiss it even though it is my honest feelings. Of course, I knew that would probably happen, I am not stupid. But I posted anyway because I felt it was important, to share a view that maybe others feel but don't want to share because everyone here just calls it lazy/afk/leeching, but most importantly because it was a change that I want, because it would make the game more fun to me.

    A healer main that wants to heal. They must be trolling.
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    Last edited by lisaa; 11-28-2021 at 08:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisaa View Post
    Look at these forums, or other places like reddit discord, or in game. It is constant bickering, blaming healers because they didn't heal or didn't dps, healers blaming others for taking damage. I wanted to share an idea that could finally remove the need for that toxicity and allow all players to be happy.

    I don't know if I'm more upset at the moderators or the people who report me. Even though the constant comments who say I am crap or trolling or blabbering, I just tried to ignore and didn't report it. I thought that even though it was really hurtful, if that is what they want to say about me, fine, let them say it. Tbh I didn't even want to comment anymore because of those comments, but then they started talking like that about someone else too, so I felt like I had to say something about it. Why are those comments allowed but my argument not?

    Healer is already a stressful role, if you die, or miss a heal, or even didn't deal enough dps, it can all easily cause a wipe. Why do we have to yell at each other so and make it even worse? What is so wrong to ask for less stress in a game we use to forget about irl?
    its wrong to ask to change an entire role so you won't bother to press which is right now 1 button.
    playing a healer is as stressful as playing a dps or a tank, dps players will tell you its seems scary to watch people hp bars, others will say its scary to position the boss and some will say keeping rotations is too much to handle.
    the reason we healers play said role is cause its fun for us, we enjoy watching people hp and put buffs that increase damage to our party members, put debuffs that weaken our enemy and if needed we will dps to help the burden of our party.
    we don't find it scary to be a healer, a new healer might be scared but he has 80-90 levels to get the feeling and understanding how a job feels its more then enough time to get over the first time nervousness especially when every time someone say he is new in the game, the party members understand and alleviate his concerns.
    i will say this lisaa nothing is not gameplay, nothing is nothing simple as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lisaa View Post
    It's toxic because it differed from the rest of this forum? Or because you think because I have high parses I have to love dpsing? Even though if I didn't you'd just call me a Sylphie instead?

    No, you're right it's because I just find it so entertaining to get called a troll or spewing bullshit or blabbering nonsense or just dismiss it even though it is my honest feelings. Of course, I knew that would probably happen, I am not stupid. But I posted anyway because I felt it was important, to share a view that maybe others feel but don't want to share because everyone here just calls it lazy/afk/leeching, but most importantly because it was a change that I want, because it would make the game more fun to me.

    A healer main that wants to heal. They must be trolling.
    no, a healer main that want to reduce his responsibilities in a party which he already barely does in content cause the content require healing once per 2-3 min then it must be a troll post.
    content does not require constant healing and on that content you want to do even less then the bare minimum and not only that you advocate people should emote or do nothing at all and call it "gameplay style" and push said playstyle not on 1 or 2 but all jobs in the healers role?
    is there not any other way then consider that post toxic and trolling?

    i will say it again in bold

    ALL HEALERS WANT TO HEAL BUT THEY WANT TO DO MORE WHEN THEY DONT NEED TO HEAL, ITS DIFFERENT THEN BEING A DPS WITH HEAL IT MEANS PEOPLE WISH TO CONTRIBUTE MORE TO THE PARTY THEN BE A HEALBOT WHERE THE NEED TO HEAL COMES ONCE EVERY FEW MINUTES, THEY DONT WANT TO RUN A 15 MIN DUNGEON DOING NOTHING BUT EMOTE THE ENTIRE RUN

    and last thing i will say, you have healers that advocate that content will hit harder to make up for the lack of healing but the LL pretty much confirmed it wont happen out of concern of making healer accessible so that won't become an option and if it were to become one it won't be in the near future as well.
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    Last edited by CrimsonGunner; 11-28-2021 at 09:27 AM.

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    Whilst I can't say I agreed with it, I'm rather surprised it got deleted TBH.

    Quote Originally Posted by lisaa View Post
    A healer main that wants to heal. They must be trolling.
    If you think that's the issue here then you might need to brush up on your English as something's apparently getting lost in translation.

    The issue is that you seemed to think that the experiences of an extreme edge case player that barely seems to exist somehow was worth more than mainstream and up players.

    No compromise, no middle ground, no common sense. Let's just make everyone play like an 80 year old trying to type an email.

    The surprised pikachu face was bonus content.
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    Last edited by Sebazy; 11-28-2021 at 09:46 AM. Reason: Grammar is hard =((((
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    I mean there must be a reason why it was deleted in the first place and they aren’t giving any of us informations here anyway why it was deleted here. So no clue why you would make a post and ask us. We get the same informations you do
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonGunner View Post
    its wrong to ask to change an entire role so you won't bother to press which is right now 1 button
    Hey, hey now, let’s now go overboard with the hyperbole here: it’s one button PLUS you’ve got to press that one other button, like… two whole times per minute! Don’t discount the amount of coordination and concentration it takes to keep that up while also having to heal… it’s, like, too much to keep track of!
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