On Extreme Role-playing Within XIV

[Bobby66]

Such lengthy discussions about this when it's so simple. Nobody wants to be around a dick like that.

Care to explain? Like around a character that is a dick, or are you saying the person who creates the character is a dick?

[Setesh45]

Care to explain? Like around a character that is a dick, or are you saying the person who creates the character is a dick?

The RP character that's a dick. I role-played with a character like that for a while, it completely ruined the atmosphere every time, the whole RP session just ruined by one person role-playing a racist egotistical orc.
After our second session I had people refusing to go with him. He kept harassing the elves in our party, his every second line was an insult towards someone. IRL you wouldn't stay around someone like that, so why should you in RP?

[Bobby66]

The RP character that's a dick. I role-played with a character like that for a while, it completely ruined the atmosphere every time, the whole RP session just ruined by one person role-playing a racist egotistical orc.
After our second session I had people refusing to go with him. He kept harassing the elves in our party, his every second line was an insult towards someone. IRL you wouldn't stay around someone like that, so why should you in RP?

Well, I mean in IRL such actions do cause a sense of lasting damage, but in terms of RP if that is their character I do not understand what made them feel uncomfortable, wouldn't it have made more sense to express the discomfort through the RP session verse just ignoring the person altogether? Just seems like the player was being avoided because others were personally comfortable not their characters. Though it does also sound like a poorly written character, which is fine line, they do not have to be overly racist where every other word is a slur that is just lazy. So I can also understand it from that PoV, though it seems less to do with a racist character and more so the person created a poor racist character.

[Setesh45]

Well, I mean in IRL such actions do cause a sense of lasting damage, but in terms of RP if that is their character I do not understand what made them feel uncomfortable, wouldn't it have made more sense to express the discomfort through the RP session verse just ignoring the person altogether? Just seems like the player was being avoided because others were personally comfortable not their characters.

Yes, the behaviour made them personally feel uncomfortable. People who roleplay are emotionally invested in their characters and in the roleplay.
The guy also wasn't a random person but a part of the guild and an IRL friend to another guldie. Unfortunately, this person got invited into the guild via this friend and not the official way, this was the result.
In the end nobody wanted to openly exclude him because he was in the guild but they also didn't want to play with him because he refused to change his ways in character.

[Bobby66]

Yes, the behaviour made them personally feel uncomfortable. People who roleplay are emotionally invested in their characters and in the roleplay.
The guy also wasn't a random person but a part of the guild and an IRL friend to another guldie. Unfortunately, this person got invited into the guild via this friend and not the official way, this was the result.
In the end nobody wanted to openly exclude him because he was in the guild but they also didn't want to play with him because he refused to change his ways in character.

Though I think that goes to show the point many have made, the person and the character should be able to separate ones feelings. Sure it is understandable for ones character to be uncomfortable since the slurs and comments are aimed towards the character. Though for what reason should the person behind the keyboard feel uncomfortable? The comments are not aimed towards them in any shape or form. Maybe I am a boomer, but rule of thumb I have always been told to follow is another player does not have the right to ask another within the group to alter their characters personality unless it is grossly overpowered or something along those lines.

[StriderShinryu]

The RP character that's a dick. I role-played with a character like that for a while, it completely ruined the atmosphere every time, the whole RP session just ruined by one person role-playing a racist egotistical orc.
After our second session I had people refusing to go with him. He kept harassing the elves in our party, his every second line was an insult towards someone.

This sort of thing has been my experience with more "extreme RP" as well. When someone wants to RP as the "extreme" sort it almost always goes hand in hand with them wanting every interaction to be About Them. Really by it's very nature, it sort of almost has to be at least a fairly major part of the scene. I mean, if you have Susan BigMuscles spouting racist, sexist, etc. commentary it's hard for other characters to at least not address it, even if she's only doing it over in the corner. That can be fine for a scene or two but if it's just a constant thing and a "feature" of the character it can absolutely make RPing with them a drag. Even if you don't take their commentary personally, when every RP session ends up being about the same thing it can just get boring and annoying.