FF14 Endgame?

[Roda]

Given that the repetition of circle arenas is a fairly specific meme among the high-end community, I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're someone on an alt having a laugh.


If not though, what do you think mmo raiding is supposed to be? xD

Troll or not the thread has a point. MMO raids can be and have been more than one boss in a square or circle flat arena with mechanics that are more complex than "stand here" or "don't stand here" or "kill this thing real fast or it's an immediate wipe". Xiv just hasn't explored them outside of a very few encounters.

A rectangle!




You make it sound so easy, I'm surprised we don't see much more people with the legend title then.

The fights themselves are surprisingly easier than they're built up to be. If you can do a proper rotation, have the proper gear and consumables, can keep attention and memory up for ~13 minutes straight, and (here's the real wall) can find 7 other people who can do all that and do it consistently AND you all have the time and patience for hours of prog while you all individually learn your own personal ways of dealing with mechanics and recovering from eachother's moments of inconsistency, then you can 100% do ultimates. Especially once it's been a while and guides are out.

Its just the people, time, and patience that are the hard parts. The mechanics themselves are comparatively simple once you know what they're asking of you.

[Izscha]

Troll or not the thread has a point. MMO raids can be and have been more than one boss in a square or circle flat arena with mechanics that are more complex than "stand here" or "don't stand here" or "kill this thing real fast or it's an immediate wipe". Xiv just hasn't explored them outside of a very few encounters.


The fights themselves are surprisingly easier than they're built up to be. If you can do a proper rotation, have the proper gear and consumables, can keep attention and memory up for ~13 minutes straight, and (here's the real wall) can find 7 other people who can do all that and do it consistently AND you all have the time and patience for hours of prog while you all individually learn your own personal ways of dealing with mechanics and recovering from eachother's moments of inconsistency, then you can 100% do ultimates. Especially once it's been a while and guides are out.

Its just the people, time, and patience that are the hard parts. The mechanics themselves are comparatively simple once you know what they're asking of you.

Yes and no, and there is a huge difference as you pointed earlier about blind/ follow a guide too.
Once you know the dance, you rarely fail afterward that's true for that but that's basically the same thing for almost everything in life ? You want to learn to play guitar and piano you """""just""""" learn in what order you press each key and that's it, easy.
And with 2.5 gcd and console limitation not mention the core of the game ( dodging especially, if you're inside the circle when it's out you're dead, even if you stepped out of it 0.1 sec after and the animation needs 5 sec to come ) it's nearly impossible for them to make fights more than that.
And while it's fairly easy for good players, try to make 95 % of the player pay attention for 13+ min and do their rotation ( which most dont know ) is nearly impossible.
So yeah if you're used to it i would call it fairly easy, but it's easy for a very small part of the community and it's near impossible for almost everyone else.

[Leonerdo]

The fights themselves are surprisingly easier than they're built up to be. If you can do a proper rotation, have the proper gear and consumables, can keep attention and memory up for ~13 minutes straight, and (here's the real wall) can find 7 other people who can do all that and do it consistently AND you all have the time and patience for hours of prog while you all individually learn your own personal ways of dealing with mechanics and recovering from eachother's moments of inconsistency, then you can 100% do ultimates. Especially once it's been a while and guides are out.

Its just the people, time, and patience that are the hard parts. The mechanics themselves are comparatively simple once you know what they're asking of you.

Particle physics is surprisingly easier than it's built up to be. If you can do advanced math, have the proper particle accelerators, sensors, and software, can keep attention and memory for ~13 sentences straight, and (here's the real wall) can find 30 other researchers who can do all that and work together smoothly, AND you have all the time and patience for months of experimenting while you all individually document/analyze every condition and result of the experiment, while recovering from equipment failures or natural disasters, then you can 100% do particle physics. Especially once it's been a while and you're just replicating old experiments.

It's just the people, time, (education, funding, diligence), and patience that are the hard parts. The science itself is comparatively simple once you know how the experiment works.

(I'm not a scientist, so I apologize if this meme is inaccurate.)