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    RobynDaBank's Avatar
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    Darn, I was late with my inb4; people already think OP is in the wrong!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    Darn, I was late with my inb4; people already think OP is in the wrong!
    Not saying he is wrong. Just saying that there is not enough information to know if he is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    Darn, I was late with my inb4; people already think OP is in the wrong!
    They were right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poporito_Popoto View Post
    They were right.
    OP can never be right. If this post came from the healer they'd get lambasted for not cooperating. Rule 101 of the forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    OP can never be right. If this post came from the healer they'd get lambasted for not cooperating. Rule 101 of the forums.
    Yeah sorry for pointing out how bizarre those stories are and funny how each single time the "I'm right believe me" are never the ones that are actually right.
    No matter what you play Healer tank DPS if you start to rant about random bs on a forum you first think if maybe you were the problem and not automatically assume it's others the meanies.
    Forum 101 indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    Darn, I was late with my inb4; people already think OP is in the wrong!
    Is there any topic on Earth you could post without a differing opinion to yours?

    Imagine the darkest, most heinous crap on Earth - you post condemning that thing. There will always be another human with ideas contrary to yours, explaining why that thing is not only un-heinous, but should be celebrated by the masses.

    I mean, I get the humor of racing to an 'inb4', but exactly what would you post where none of the other 8 billion people on this planet disagree with you? I could post a thread on ending world hunger, and it's guaranteed someone will oppose the idea... shoot, it'd probably be Godwinned within the first few pages.

    Ironically, and IMVHO, OP is glossing over details, misrepresenting what happened, or something of that sort. Random, roving packs of players just itching to do something toxic don't exist. I call BS on anyone claiming that they just happened to run across some toxic, horrible group. There's nearly always an explanation for why one got vote-kicked or asked to leave, or things along that line.
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    "If you pay attention to the world, it's an amazing place. If you don't, it's whatever you think it is.” – Reggie Watts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakbeat View Post
    Is there any topic on Earth you could post without a differing opinion to yours?

    Imagine the darkest, most heinous crap on Earth - you post condemning that thing. There will always be another human with ideas contrary to yours, explaining why that thing is not only un-heinous, but should be celebrated by the masses.

    I mean, I get the humor of racing to an 'inb4', but exactly what would you post where none of the other 8 billion people on this planet disagree with you? I could post a thread on ending world hunger, and it's guaranteed someone will oppose the idea... shoot, it'd probably be Godwinned within the first few pages.

    Ironically, and IMVHO, OP is glossing over details, misrepresenting what happened, or something of that sort. Random, roving packs of players just itching to do something toxic don't exist. I call BS on anyone claiming that they just happened to run across some toxic, horrible group. There's nearly always an explanation for why one got vote-kicked or asked to leave, or things along that line.
    I'm not against differing opinions. Yeah, there is indeed humour in "inb4" - again not everyone's cup of tea, but I had my little chuckle thinking and posting it and that was that.

    It's true that there will always be someone disagreeing with something, no matter how just or pure it is. But I just see disagreeing and believing differently. I believe the OP because I read the post on its surface, avoided poring over every line to nitpick what's exaggerations and what's a falsehood that never could have happened (except all sort of things happen on this planet, why discount something is out of realty just because it never happened to you?). I'm not gullible, but in simple matters like forum threads I'm willing to believe the case put forward did happen. If it's a troll, I can't fathom their chain of thought. Why make a post explicitly untrue just to see others squabble? Yes it happens, but why?

    I'd rather believe someone said the truth than instantly accuse them of lying. I'd rather be naïve than bitterly distrustful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    I'd rather believe someone said the truth than instantly accuse them of lying. I'd rather be naïve than bitterly distrustful.
    You speak as if this is some kind of sophistry. While it "may" applies to this "kind" of post, but in this instance the OP looks bad exactly because it was taken at face value. The OP wasn't "trying to make himself look good" via lying and make one wonder if there is another side of the story, no he's getting on a megaphone and screaming "I AM BAD" from the top of his lung. In another word, I think the tank is bad in this case precisely because I don't doubt his word and I believe him what he claimed, just not his assessment.

    It seems to me you just want to use this to spout some kind of philosophy, and like I said it may often apply to topic of this nature ... I think you swing and miss quite hard on this one. You implied others of nitpicking, but I think it was you who was trying to read what is not even written.
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    Last edited by Raven2014; 11-22-2021 at 04:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    You speak as if this is some kind of sophistry. While it "may" applies to this "kind" of post, but in this instance the OP looks bad exactly because it was taken at face value. The OP wasn't "trying to make himself look good" via lying and make one wonder if there is another side of the story, no he's getting on a megaphone and screaming "I AM BAD" from the top of his lung. In another word, I think the tank is bad in this case precisely because I don't doubt his word and I believe him what he claimed, just not his assessment.

    It seems to me you just want to use this to spout some kind of philosophy, and like I said it may often apply to topic of this nature ... I think you swing and miss quite hard on this one. You implied others of nitpicking, but I think it was you who was trying to read what is not even written.
    You must have misread the confusion and frustration he presented when he was first unintentionally abandoned by the group, which caused a wipe, followed by yet another wipe with all players present that he was promptly solely blamed for.

    That's what he said happened. Why the false paraphrase? That's super shady.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    You must have misread the confusion and frustration he presented ...
    That's the point though ... regardless of whatever reason behind it, I'm reading the OP exactly as how he said it. This is not even about the OP really, simply pointing out the false pretense presented by the poster I was replying to. I'm thinking the tank is bad exactly because I'm simply taking what OP was saying at face value, not because I'm nickpicking or reading between the line. Both of you are trying to reach by adding some non-existence philosophical POV.

    Why the false paraphrase? That's super shady.
    What even a false paraphrase?

    - OP claimed he died within 2 seconds with 3 mobs on him ... not even a caster DPS would go down that fast. That's a bad tank.
    - OP dismissed other suggestion of why he's not popping CD, saying he's not fast enough. So ... someone who's not fast enough to pop a CD but expecting the heal to come faster ... that's even worse than a bad tank, that's an entitled tank.

    Basically, the OP fully admit he's a bad tank ... except he did so without even recognizing it.

    I had said it earlier and I'll say it again: you're reaching ... with a 10ft pole. I'm not falsifying anything, all the detail came straight from a horse mouth. Like I said I only disagree with the assessment. It's like after a car wreck, you see a driver saying "yes I was on the phone, yes I was speeding and run the red light but it's not my fault mkay? The other driver should just be good enough to avoid me!"

    What I and most others listened to that and simply say: No ... without trying to reach as hard as you do.
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