So did i hear correctly? Old "THE FEAST" Top 100 Rewards will become available again?

[Stormfur]

Everyone eventually has their moment of downtime. Ultimate raiders had to wait a long time to get a new ultimate. Crafters and gatherers had to wait a long time to get something that wasn't bone-gnawingly boring in order to level up and actually have a challenge, Hunters have to wait for an entirely new expansion to get a new currency before they have something new to work toward again and that's not even touching on the mess that is housing and how long people have waited for that, just to be able to decorate and host events.

PVP finally gets its moment in the sun, FINALLY gets some love from the dev team, and those 10 or 20 people that have everything might have to wait until new things are released for them to work toward. I hate to say it, but welcome to the club... we saved a seat for you.

[Commander_Justitia]

How many people have you see with the Pteranodon, centurio tiger, triceratops, the mentor mount?

A bot can do literally anything, they can play pvp with scripts better than you can lol what kind of argument is that?.

Rewards based on skill > Rewards based on time alone. I really don't want ishgard type leaderboards, where you can't compete if you don't play every day for half a day.
You still had to be top100 as bot, you can lose every match in the new system and still get everything.

And PvE has way more booster/piloting and cheater, I don't see ultimate rewards be made grindable. If this is your logic, that it devalues the achievement, apply it there too I guess.

We could be talking about rewards for what 80 players? And yes SE should have fixed pvp feast after HWs at the latest.

Yes, they made the leaderboard, how they wanted it. They apparently didn't want 100 unique people to get it. PvP community pointed that out years ago.
And in some seasons Gold Tier was enough to be top100? Nobody interested? How can 100 slots not be enough if the board can't even reach the second highest ranking tier?

I'm sure SE can make very wonderful future rewards that outshine the past ones. This game has over 200 mounts and 1000s of glamour options, there is room for 5 exclusives that got released over 5 years.

[Stepjam]

I've always been of the feeling that temporary exclusivity is just fine. The people who initially work for it get to have it for half a year to a year to show off then others can scrape their way to getting it as well. Like with savage where a year or two later, players can unsync to get savage mounts, but even then many of the fights still require at least a bit of effort to clear (o12s is still a bit of a nightmare with pugs), but it's still doable. So I think if they added old feast champion items to be obtained with pvp tokens a year or two after they are initially obtained by the serious PVP players, that would be fine. Maybe make it something of a grind to get, but at least it's still obtainable for those who do the grind. Or hell, even do the above but slightly alter it so that it's clear that one is the pvp champ armor while the other is the "knock off" that everyone can get.
I do get the joy of being able to show off stuff. I liked being able to show off my cerberus mount at my FC house since I was like one of two people who had it initially. But I also was onboard with helping fellow FC members get theirs months later when DRS was easier because of new actions and the valors.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Rewards based on skill > Rewards based on time alone. I really don't want ishgard type leaderboards, where you can't compete if you don't play every day for half a day.
You still had to be top100 as bot, you can lose every match in the new system and still get everything.

And PvE has way more booster/piloting and cheater, I don't see ultimate rewards be made grindable. If this is your logic, that it devalues the achievement, apply it there too I guess.




Yes, they made the leaderboard, how they wanted it. They apparently didn't want 100 unique people to get it. PvP community pointed that out years ago.
And in some seasons Gold Tier was enough to be top100? Nobody interested? How can 100 slots not be enough if the board can't even reach the second highest ranking tier?

I'm sure SE can make very wonderful future rewards that outshine the past ones. This game has over 200 mounts and 1000s of glamour options, there is room for 5 exclusives that got released over 5 years.

You prefer skill based rewards, that doesn't make them objectively better than one's based on time dedication. It's nothing about competing by playing everyday for half they day at all... it's about having a long term goal to work towards steadily should you choose too. It shows a dedication that not a lot of players have, yourself included it seems. Me too, I would love the tiger but I don't go too hunts often enough to get it within the next couple years xD Ultimate rewards are obtainable by anyone willing to put the time in to do them, so is anything else in this game with PvP being the outlier because the rewards are unavailable now..
Screw me and other players that came later in the game's life I guess? That attitude is part of why I never stuck with WoW when I tried it, why would I bother investing time into a game that I knew they had a LOT of content I could never get or experience just because I wasn't around at the time? FOMO is a great way to keep your heavily invested players addicted.. it's also a great way to make sure you put off new players coming to your game. I would like ffxiv to grow, frankly if some butt hurt pvpers that don't want their beloved pixels shared take umbrage and leave it's no big loss.. there are how many? A few hundred given how exclusive the rewards are. And how many new players might enjoy and stick to ff with this new pvp that SE is showing they are willing to invest a considerable amount of dev time into.

They clearly want more people to do pvp given that the content is utterly dead without community organisation, they want people to have access to the rewards and not feel pressured to play the mode and end up disliking it because of it. You're in the minority and SE knows it. Embrace it, you still will have some ranked titles etc to epeen over if you're that bothered.

[Commander_Justitia]

I would like ffxiv to grow, frankly if some butt hurt pvpers that don't want their beloved pixels shared take umbrage and leave it's no big loss..

They clearly want more people to do pvp

I could ask you the same then, why does it make you so hurt if you don't get them? Would you not enjoy the mode based on if its fun potential, and not, based on what kind of rewards you can get? Taking old rewards and redistributing them wouldn't be 'big dev time'.

They did the same before, a rework of PvP with the goal to make it more casual friendly, to attract the masses. I didn't really work out as good as they wanted, it did make a lot of the existing PvP players stop playing and maybe the same will happen now. It was quite funny when you even saw new people asking in discords or on forums "Why is PvP so simple, why are there no traits/depth, where are my skills, why is there no aoe, where is the crowdcontrol, where are my buffs, where is my sprint, where is my impact besides just dmg".
I hope this time it will be different and the gameplay is engaging enough, I hope I wont see people giving up to lose the game after 30s, just to boost their series rank faster.

And if you know WoW, you must know the scarab lord mount too, only one player has it per server?! If everyone would have it, nobody would have ever talked about it. It became a story, something that made it popular or astonishing to see it. Only after a decade or longer they made reskins of it in different colors but never the same. SE could take the same approach for mounts.

You're in the minority and SE knows it.

PvP minority knows at least what it is talking about, we play it for fun more or less, I have PvP friends who missed a lot or all of rewards and even they wouldn't like such a giveaway.

[lezard21]

If they gonna bring back old PvP rewards, then they should also bring back old statue emotes with an alternate easier and more accessible method to obtain.

If we gonna disrespect a group of people's support and time investment, then we need to disrespect them all.

[Moonlite]

If they gonna bring back old PvP rewards, then they should also bring back old statue emotes with an alternate easier and more accessible method to obtain.

If we gonna disrespect a group of people's support and time investment, then we need to disrespect them all.

As those emotes are just a bonus as all items tied to real life purchase are. They should all be in the cash shop separate from the items they came from. In fact they already made precedent by doing that for fan fest items. It would easily allow them to pad out the whale shop even more. They could/should pick an arbitrary time to sell it. If that time is just a set time or if it is when items are no longer for sale. I got free items from buying FF13. I have free items from FF11. Why shouldn't they be on the cash shop? A special collection of FF that had versions of games no longer usable had a special item. It had a minuscule run. I don't get why your suggestion doesn't come up more.

[lezard21]

It had a minuscule run. I don't get why your suggestion doesn't come up more.

Because you don't suddenly change the terms and conditions on limited time items. It's a dishonest practice and this is supposed to be the good company vs the other bad company.

[MellowMink]

I don't like the idea of inaccessible and time-limited mounts in the first place, so I would have no problem with them being available through other means. There was a lot of work put into mounts that a dramatic majority of current players don't have and have no physical way of ever accessing; I don't personally see that eternal exclusivity as a good thing.

[Cithaerias_pyropina]

I'm sure SE can make very wonderful future rewards that outshine the past ones. This game has over 200 mounts and 1000s of glamour options, there is room for 5 exclusives that got released over 5 years.

When those exclusives are the only pieces of actual good armor glamour for casters nah no thanks screw exclusivity, gimme gimme.

PvP minority knows at least what it is talking about, we play it for fun more or less, I have PvP friends who missed a lot or all of rewards and even they wouldn't like such a giveaway.

If you PvPed just for the fun then you wouldn't be here whining about feast rewards potentially being handed out.