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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    How many people have you see with the Pteranodon, centurio tiger, triceratops, the mentor mount?

    A bot can do literally anything, they can play pvp with scripts better than you can lol what kind of argument is that?.
    Rewards based on skill > Rewards based on time alone. I really don't want ishgard type leaderboards, where you can't compete if you don't play every day for half a day.
    You still had to be top100 as bot, you can lose every match in the new system and still get everything.

    And PvE has way more booster/piloting and cheater, I don't see ultimate rewards be made grindable. If this is your logic, that it devalues the achievement, apply it there too I guess.


    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    We could be talking about rewards for what 80 players? And yes SE should have fixed pvp feast after HWs at the latest.
    Yes, they made the leaderboard, how they wanted it. They apparently didn't want 100 unique people to get it. PvP community pointed that out years ago.
    And in some seasons Gold Tier was enough to be top100? Nobody interested? How can 100 slots not be enough if the board can't even reach the second highest ranking tier?

    I'm sure SE can make very wonderful future rewards that outshine the past ones. This game has over 200 mounts and 1000s of glamour options, there is room for 5 exclusives that got released over 5 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    Rewards based on skill > Rewards based on time alone. I really don't want ishgard type leaderboards, where you can't compete if you don't play every day for half a day.
    You still had to be top100 as bot, you can lose every match in the new system and still get everything.

    And PvE has way more booster/piloting and cheater, I don't see ultimate rewards be made grindable. If this is your logic, that it devalues the achievement, apply it there too I guess.




    Yes, they made the leaderboard, how they wanted it. They apparently didn't want 100 unique people to get it. PvP community pointed that out years ago.
    And in some seasons Gold Tier was enough to be top100? Nobody interested? How can 100 slots not be enough if the board can't even reach the second highest ranking tier?

    I'm sure SE can make very wonderful future rewards that outshine the past ones. This game has over 200 mounts and 1000s of glamour options, there is room for 5 exclusives that got released over 5 years.
    You prefer skill based rewards, that doesn't make them objectively better than one's based on time dedication. It's nothing about competing by playing everyday for half they day at all... it's about having a long term goal to work towards steadily should you choose too. It shows a dedication that not a lot of players have, yourself included it seems. Me too, I would love the tiger but I don't go too hunts often enough to get it within the next couple years xD Ultimate rewards are obtainable by anyone willing to put the time in to do them, so is anything else in this game with PvP being the outlier because the rewards are unavailable now..
    Screw me and other players that came later in the game's life I guess? That attitude is part of why I never stuck with WoW when I tried it, why would I bother investing time into a game that I knew they had a LOT of content I could never get or experience just because I wasn't around at the time? FOMO is a great way to keep your heavily invested players addicted.. it's also a great way to make sure you put off new players coming to your game. I would like ffxiv to grow, frankly if some butt hurt pvpers that don't want their beloved pixels shared take umbrage and leave it's no big loss.. there are how many? A few hundred given how exclusive the rewards are. And how many new players might enjoy and stick to ff with this new pvp that SE is showing they are willing to invest a considerable amount of dev time into.

    They clearly want more people to do pvp given that the content is utterly dead without community organisation, they want people to have access to the rewards and not feel pressured to play the mode and end up disliking it because of it. You're in the minority and SE knows it. Embrace it, you still will have some ranked titles etc to epeen over if you're that bothered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    I would like ffxiv to grow, frankly if some butt hurt pvpers that don't want their beloved pixels shared take umbrage and leave it's no big loss..

    They clearly want more people to do pvp
    I could ask you the same then, why does it make you so hurt if you don't get them? Would you not enjoy the mode based on if its fun potential, and not, based on what kind of rewards you can get? Taking old rewards and redistributing them wouldn't be 'big dev time'.

    They did the same before, a rework of PvP with the goal to make it more casual friendly, to attract the masses. I didn't really work out as good as they wanted, it did make a lot of the existing PvP players stop playing and maybe the same will happen now. It was quite funny when you even saw new people asking in discords or on forums "Why is PvP so simple, why are there no traits/depth, where are my skills, why is there no aoe, where is the crowdcontrol, where are my buffs, where is my sprint, where is my impact besides just dmg".
    I hope this time it will be different and the gameplay is engaging enough, I hope I wont see people giving up to lose the game after 30s, just to boost their series rank faster.

    And if you know WoW, you must know the scarab lord mount too, only one player has it per server?! If everyone would have it, nobody would have ever talked about it. It became a story, something that made it popular or astonishing to see it. Only after a decade or longer they made reskins of it in different colors but never the same. SE could take the same approach for mounts.


    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    You're in the minority and SE knows it.
    PvP minority knows at least what it is talking about, we play it for fun more or less, I have PvP friends who missed a lot or all of rewards and even they wouldn't like such a giveaway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    I'm sure SE can make very wonderful future rewards that outshine the past ones. This game has over 200 mounts and 1000s of glamour options, there is room for 5 exclusives that got released over 5 years.
    When those exclusives are the only pieces of actual good armor glamour for casters nah no thanks screw exclusivity, gimme gimme.

    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    PvP minority knows at least what it is talking about, we play it for fun more or less, I have PvP friends who missed a lot or all of rewards and even they wouldn't like such a giveaway.
    If you PvPed just for the fun then you wouldn't be here whining about feast rewards potentially being handed out.
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