So did i hear correctly? Old "THE FEAST" Top 100 Rewards will become available again?

[Cidel]

So to keep a mount/glamour that you really like you would have to basically play Feast every day for the rest of the game's life? This sounds as fun as the current housing system that is also widely liked and popular because people lose their house when they try to take a break from the game

Essentially, if we were to hold them both to the standard to how they handle "finite" resources, the Feast would see a similar urgency to be "active." I think the idea was described better here:

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In any case; yeah, it would be a pain to maintain and unpopular. But if the housing system is subject to a player's ability to be constantly active and not take breaks, then imposing a system where the finite rewards are on the line every season looks just about right. Neither are fun, but it only exists for one. But the Feast ranking system is being removed, which I guess is also a solution.

[Toukichiful]

Not so sure about this. I like the idea of aquiring items long due their expiration date, but seeing everyone walking around in that gear devalues it to a point.

I wouldn't consider it a bad thing, but I think each piece should cost 15k - 20k wolf marks, give me a little bit of a grind so I feel the worth ultimately.

Doubtful everyone will be walking around with it, people will divert to casual glams like they always do after 1 week and I expect them to be part of the token system there adding so there will be a grind for it if they do add them back, so unless you want it, you will not get it with ease.

[Stormfur]

If they do leaderboards, they really need to be careful of people exploiting it. Like Saint/Beatus/Beata of the Firmament. Some of them were hardcore gatherers/crafters, some were clearly bots. I say this as someone who ranked in the top 30 among crafters. Because if it can be exploited, it will -- UNLESS it is so impossibly difficult/challenging (Necromancer title), it's impossible to automate.

[Saefinn]

That would be really, really sad to say the least. Not only will it completely delete any Value those items have, but it also disrespects all the time and Work people put in to get those rewards. (At least the first 4 Seasons).

I myself learned to play a Healer and played countless matches often paired with frustration to get the Season1/2 rewards. Now everybody who plays Frontlines will run Around with Season 1/2 crown and the iconic Coat?

One can just hope that there is a missunderstanding.

Edit:

I see most of you are on board with this but of course you are not in my shoes. Well, i guess we can give everybody everything.

Had i known that those items would become available for basically free, i wouldn't have put so much effort in obtaining them. I played PvP in every MMO i touched, not just because of rewards but because i enjoyed it. In FF though i specifically took more time to learn how to play Healer so i have a chance to get those rewards, i guess it is only a matter of time till 1.0 Items are given away too since we now go the route to eliminate anything Special.

Edit2: I just remembered that Yoshi P once said that they will not bring back old Seasonal Feast rewards, so the Feast items mentioned will in deed be the ones that were available all along with Wolf collars. Thread can be closed.

Source: https://ff14net-2chblog-jp.translate...&_x_tr_pto=nui

So basically they've listened to people who were dissatisfied with the current system. As one of those people, I am glad. PvP rewards to me has felt silly and don't really incentivise me to try, because you can put in the hours and efforts and you are not guarantee to get top 100. And with people exploiting the system, I think that disrespects and devalues the honest work people put into The Feast if anything. I've not had a PvP incentive for a long time and whenever I tried to queue they've been terrible queues and there's all these rewards they could put up to help breathe life into PvP content and they're sitting there unattainable.

I feel like you'll get more people doing PvP if the rewards feel more achievable. Now I recognise there needs to be prestige rewards for the top level of play.
So the way I suggested and gave feedback for was:
When a new season starts an old season reward gets moved into Wolf Marks and they can still take a lot of wolf marks to get, so it's not just an easy low effort grabbing of old items, but remains a tangible one that gets more people queuing for PvP and people can still work for it.

I don't think it disrespects people's hardwork. Maybe I have a different mentality, but as a contrast for highend Pve content - I don't think Eden Savage getting easier in EW with people undersizing it devalues the fact I put the hard work into getting the Savage mount I've got from it. Even if say, hypothetically I never do another Savage again. Because my elation and excitement and the time to show off has passed by the point it becomes easier. And even then people still have to put the effort in, because not everything can be cheesed when undersized.

[Moonlite]

If they do leaderboards, they really need to be careful of people exploiting it. Like Saint/Beatus/Beata of the Firmament. Some of them were hardcore gatherers/crafters, some were clearly bots. I say this as someone who ranked in the top 30 among crafters. Because if it can be exploited, it will -- UNLESS it is so impossibly difficult/challenging (Necromancer title), it's impossible to automate.

One would wish that any top 100 limited reward would be manually reviewed. But I guess if it is just a title and achievement it is disappointing. But not as frustrating as losing an item. What is also saddening is getting the same title and blocking others. I was short of getting saint a few times. But I ended up blocking someone else from getting the title already had multiple times because I was doing the event. If they keep the title the same if top 100 already have it work your way down the list. Most of us aren't gate keeping jerks. We are just playing the game and blocking other players is a side affect not an intention.

[Plastics]

This would be a good decision. Having rewards tied to playing at a specific time unobtainable forever is obnoxious FOMO design. Rewards for high level competition in a season should be a time exclusive reward, like a title or a mount for a year or a few seasons and then everyone can get it, or you lose it and the new top players have to earn it again. Moreover, someone else getting something you have doesn't negate what you did to earn it.

Having all the best rewards in PvP be things you can acquire by casual play is extremely healthy for PvP because it encourages people to try it out, without making them feel compelled to do so.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

So hyped for 6.1 to see what the first rewards are now. PvP glam is always a banger

[Commander_Justitia]

This thread is high on copium.

Rare items are good for the game, in PvP not everyone can win.
Farming wolfmarks to get ranked rewards is not an "effort". A bot can do that.

They made series last longer because they don't wanna make new gear at every season anymore.

Imagine me, I have all seasonal rewards, do you think they don't make a single item for me in the next 5-6 years, because they release all the old glamour again?

And stop with the lies, especially if you never PvP'd in this game and just want the rewards. 2 people wintrading doesn't mean 100 people didn't deserve the reward, one guy playing 5 alts doesn't mean he didn't earn it. Blame SE for not fixing their system earlier, don't blame the PvP community for sticking to the mode for what it was.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

This thread is high on copium.

Rare items are good for the game, in PvP not everyone can win.
Farming wolfmarks to get ranked rewards is not an "effort". A bot can do that.

They made series last longer because they don't wanna make new gear at every season anymore.

Imagine me, I have all seasonal rewards, do you think they don't make a single item for me in the next 5-6 years, because they release all the old glamour again?

And stop with the lies, especially if you never PvP'd in this game and just want the rewards. 2 people wintrading doesn't mean 100 people didn't deserve the reward, one guy playing 5 alts doesn't mean he didn't earn it. Blame SE for not fixing their system earlier, don't blame the PvP community for sticking to the mode for what it was.

Rare items sure, you realise there are rare items in ffxiv that are NOT gated behind time restricted things? How many people have you see with the Pteranodon, centurio tiger, triceratops, the mentor mount? Until the recent boom of people doing ultimates it was rare to see people with all three ultimate weapons, and even with the boom it is still a SMALL portion of players that have cleared all three. Yet these items are not stuck behind FOMO mechanics, they are just hard and time consuming to get.
Imagine you, did they say they would not make anything new for players such as you? No they didn't they said they would have rewards and circulate back in old feast stuff. So what exactly is your problem? You get new gear, you get more people trying pvp and you dont have to deal with shitty fomo. A bot can do literally anything, they can play pvp with scripts better than you can lol what kind of argument is that? Copium my ass, you just don't want people to have what you have, admit it and be done with it.

[Moonlite]

And stop with the lies, especially if you never PvP'd in this game and just want the rewards. 2 people wintrading doesn't mean 100 people didn't deserve the reward, one guy playing 5 alts doesn't mean he didn't earn it. Blame SE for not fixing their system earlier, don't blame the PvP community for sticking to the mode for what it was.

I think the salt is high. One guy with 5 alts means not 100 real life people got the rewards. 94 or less did. That doesn't include the others with alts reducing the number even more. Then add in the few win traders and cheaters and how many legit players actually won? When the number is 100 and so low to begin with. We could be talking about rewards for what 80 players? I guess those 80 players are going to have a boring next few years. And yes SE should have fixed pvp feast after HWs at the latest. Also with only a 100 SE should have manually reviewed before handing out rewards. so people could not blame the players for something SE should have been responsible for.