Quote Originally Posted by QooEr View Post
lilies will always have this problem regardless because you fundamentally *dont* want to use them outside of downtime. even if misery was buffed to be dps neutral you would still want to burn them in downtime if possible
Not always, will be heavily dependent on how big outgoing damage is in relation to your MP, and if oGCDs can cover it. If not, lilies are great at just conserving MP if Misery becomes DPS neutral since you're essentially not spending any MP on 3 GCDs worth of heals (1000 MP per Cure II & Medica equivalent) + 4 GCDs worth of Glares (1200 MP). In total, that's getting 4200 worth of MP over 4 GCDs as opposed to just spending 1200 MP or 3000 MP. That's pretty big on MP changes. Heck, even if you do blow your lilies up, even using Misery is technically saving 400 MP since it replaces a Glare on the GCD. It's just a really roundabout way in affecting our MP.