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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by SchwarzwaelderTorte View Post
    Also, something that wasn't really mentioned: do you still get a discount if you want to relocate to the plot you're applying for, or do you have to pay the full price?
    I assume the relocation "discount" will be unaffected by the changes, not that amounts to much. Someone who currently owns a small would only get 446-558k gil applied toward the purchase price of the new plot. It may as well be full price at that point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Siniztor View Post
    S.E. Just needs to stop with the band aid fixs flat out there had 2 years to have a team redo the housing into instance so everyone could have a house. Its not hard many games have it.. They proved they can do it with Apartments.. Just make it so houses are like that and remove outdoor deco.. Put gardens on the door to your GC along with Airships and work shops so everyone in a FC or Not have access. Its not rocket science. They keep making the Jobs easier to play and housing harder then it needs to be..
    No need to remove outdoor decor with instanced housing. Outdoors can be a part of the instance just as much as the indoors.

    A better solution is to remove Outdoor Furnishings as a category and move those items into the other categories. Why should I not have a Carbuncle table on my lawn to go with my Carbuncle Bench, or Lattice Planter alongside my Doman Dogwoods?

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPete View Post
    Let me explain something to you. I own my solo FC because not everyone wants to be in drama filled larger FC’s filled with immature and envious people.

    I chose to build my own and became extremely rich through hard work and dedication. My FC is rank 30 with all maxed out airships and submarines. I did it all by myself.

    My home doesn’t just sit there unused. I am very happy there. I just asked a simple question. I can always create Alts and put them in my FC so I can have 4 total members that’s not the issue.

    I think before you assume you know what’s going on get the facts straight.
    I don't think anyone has the facts wrong here.

    Solo players were not intended to have workshops all to themselves. Otherwise SE would have allowed workshops to be added to personal homes instead of limited to FCs.

    I know people like to point to "but SE removed the light party requirement on the fabrication station" but that was to solve a different problem, not because they wanted solo players operating workshops for personal profit.

    You did in fact exploit the system. SE is going to continue to allow you to exploit the system for since none of the changes are addressing workshop access.

    The only thing that is changing for you is that you will no longer be able to relocate your FC, or purchase additional FC houses on the same world using your alts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mango2020 View Post
    I'm sad I was hoping to relo to a medium when people jumped ship to Ishgard. I wish they still allowed reloing for the older wards, but my med dream is dead.
    It shouldn't be a dead dream, just one more difficult to obtain. You'll still be able to enter the lottery or camp the placard for your chance along side everyone else who would like that plot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    It shouldn't be a dead dream, just one more difficult to obtain. You'll still be able to enter the lottery or camp the placard for your chance along side everyone else who would like that plot.
    There will never be enough housing available to meet demand, especially since this game's popularity has been skyrocketing for the past 2 years.

    3 years ago on Mateus you could find several plots open at once and I got my first personal house, which was a beachfront cottage in the Mist with zero competition sometime shortly after the placard system was introduced. Now, you may find one or two plots open and they'll be camped by at least 20 people, many of which are automating the process. I would be surprised if anyone could load into a housing ward if a medium or large happened to be up for sale because there are sure to be a ton of people camping it if it's under the placard system. A lottery is more convenient but the odds are going to be even worse.

    So, yes, the dream a lot of people have of upgrading their house size is going to be dead for all intents and purposes. Resellers are no doubt making a mint right now as a lot of people will be reaching that conclusion and this is their last best chance to get something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrogDog View Post
    There will never be enough housing available to meet demand, especially since this game's popularity has been skyrocketing for the past 2 years.
    I agree that it will always be a problem as long as SE continues to focus on wards instead of working on an enhanced instanced system.

    But that still doesn't mean that someone who really wants that medium or large won't be the lucky recipient in a lottery once that is implemented. It means that getting the medium or large during 6.0 is going to require placard camping and a bit of luck. At least you'll finally get to see those mediums and larges become available when relinquished/demolished and have a decent change. Right now that doesn't happen because the resellers using the bots are all over them within minutes.
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    Taking away the relocation feature has it's pro's and con's.
    Relocaters swiping plot out from under the noses of first time buyers is bad. Yet for an FC who wants to upgrade to a larger size home it's going to be tough.
    With all these houses turned into cafe's, pubs, casinos and yes brothels for earning gil, the demand for mediums and mansions have greatly increased.
    For the first time in my ffxiv gaming carreer I was offered 300 mil gil for my FC mansion which I flatly refused.
    I feel there are too many loop holes left open for players to cheat the system and SE needs to clamp down, regardless how mad people get. Especially in this one area of housing. Restrictions to what is considered an FC needs to be address. An FC is not meant for a single member and so on. The 1 FC rule needs tighened and monitored. SE needs to quit leaving so many grey areas in the system of buying plots.
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