So did i hear correctly? Old "THE FEAST" Top 100 Rewards will become available again?

[VanMckan]

Yeah this would be very sad. It does sound like they will include the old rewards with the sentence “various loot from the feast will return” and the context kind of hints that way.
I wouldn’t have put so much effort in if I knew this either. I really tried very hard for my feast rewards so will be really sad to see players get them in a much more casual way. They don’t have ultimates unsync or the weapons for tomes so why would people be able to get the rewards by not even doing the same game mode? Seriously annoying

[Shin96]

Yeah this would be very sad. It does sound like they will include the old rewards with the sentence “various loot from the feast will return” and the context kind of hints that way.
I wouldn’t have put so much effort in if I knew this either. I really tried very hard for my feast rewards so will be really sad to see players get them in a much more casual way. They don’t have ultimates unsync or the weapons for tomes so why would people be able to get the rewards by not even doing the same game mode? Seriously annoying

I agree. I don't want things to be handed on a silver platter, make me earn it.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

I agree. I don't want things to be handed on a silver platter, make me earn it.

We don't know how many tokens those old feast rewards will take, it might take the entire series worth for one thing.. it might not. Regardless, if they did the entire lot and got all then tokens to get the rewards asap they did work for it? They just didn't suffer a toxic environment to do so. There are plenty lovely pvpers but when you put x thing behind a rank and other people can get in your way of getting it? You are gonna breed toxic behaviour, this is much more healthy for players mental and community than top 100 ever was or will be. Top ten per DATA CENTRE?! Even worse, this idea of having to "work" is an old mmo idea that just equates to grinding out something a ludicrous amount and half the time you end up getting frustrated more often than you are enjoying yourself. Making such cool armour sets and then only hand it out to a handful of people? Waste.

If you want something insane to grind go work on getting the pteranodon mount or something idk.

[Shin96]

We don't know how many tokens those old feast rewards will take, it might take the entire series worth for one thing.. it might not. Regardless, if they did the entire lot and got all then tokens to get the rewards asap they did work for it? They just didn't suffer a toxic environment to do so. There are plenty lovely pvpers but when you put x thing behind a rank and other people can get in your way of getting it? You are gonna breed toxic behaviour, this is much more healthy for players mental and community than top 100 ever was or will be. Top ten per DATA CENTRE?! Even worse, this idea of having to "work" is an old mmo idea that just equates to grinding out something a ludicrous amount and half the time you end up getting frustrated more often than you are enjoying yourself. Making such cool armour sets and then only hand it out to a handful of people? Waste.

If you want something insane to grind go work on getting the pteranodon mount or something idk.

First of all, who is this directed to? What are you even talking about.. ?

I never said I want people to participate in the Feast nor have I ever done so. Let alone made it anywhere near top 100. The reason I agreed with my response concering the poster I quoted is that they had to work hard to get it. I like working for my rewards because you own nothing in this game and never had. However, you do keep memories and even discipline to an extend when you farm for something. I learned an aspect of patience in this game.

You guys are so extreme, it's easy to see why these forums have a bad reputation. Sometimes people here don't even read posts for context. I wanted the rewards if anything to be earned with wolf marks, let's say 15k-20k each piece. And contrary to your lazy opinion, working is the default state of nature. If you truly believe you are deserving of anything while only moving your small finger, it only goes to show your own entitlement.

Again, I'm all for these items to be available because I do not have them myself. I just want to have a bit of things to do for them, that's all.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

First of all, who is this directed to? What are you even talking about.. ?

I never said I want people to participate in the Feast nor have I ever done so. Let alone made it anywhere near top 100. The reason I agreed with my response concering the poster I quoted is that they had to work hard to get it. I like working for my rewards because you own nothing in this game and never had. However, you do keep memories and even discipline to an extend when you farm for something. I learned an aspect of patience in this game.

You guys are so extreme, it's easy to see why these forums have a bad reputation. Sometimes people here don't even read posts for context. I wanted the rewards if anything to be earned with wolf marks, let's say 15k-20k each piece. And contrary to your lazy opinion, working is the default state of nature. If you truly believe you are deserving of anything while only moving your small finger, it only goes to show your own entitlement.

Again, I'm all for these items to be available because I do not have them myself. I just want to have a bit of things to do for them, that's all.

At you obviously, since I quoted you. Did I say you were demanding people do feast? No. I was pointing out the method of getting the rewards was hot garbage and was bad for most players. Congrats on wanting to WORK in a game meant for recreation and enjoyment. It's not a lazy opinion to want a more healthy style for the game that does not entice cheats and RMT sellers into action. If people have to do the series 'pass' to get the items is that not enough for you? Why should the entire playerbase be beholden to such standards, we are here to play for fun not work. Hence the ending sentence if you want something that feels more like work, go farm ishgard for the pteranodon mount.. it will take a good long while. Meanwhile I will put my work into my education, wanting some sort of effort is fine but some people's standards for what should be done is too high for people with a life.

"Waving my little finger" nothing I said amounts to demanding all the rewards for nothing at all, but do carry on talking nonsense. You will get plenty of your memories doing the series as normal but without the pressure of knowing it's NOW or NEVER. This was the issue with pvp, it sucks and is not fun to deal with.

[Shin96]

At you obviously, since I quoted you. Did I say you were demanding people do feast? No. I was pointing out the method of getting the rewards was hot garbage and was bad for most players. Congrats on wanting to WORK in a game meant for recreation and enjoyment. It's not a lazy opinion to want a more healthy style for the game that does not entice cheats and RMT sellers into action. If people have to do the series 'pass' to get the items is that not enough for you? Why should the entire playerbase be beholden to such standards, we are here to play for fun not work. Hence the ending sentence if you want something that feels more like work, go farm ishgard for the pteranodon mount.. it will take a good long while. Meanwhile I will put my work into my education, wanting some sort of effort is fine but some people's standards for what should be done is too high for people with a life.

"Waving my little finger" nothing I said amounts to demanding all the rewards for nothing at all, but do carry on talking nonsense. You will get plenty of your memories doing the series as normal but without the pressure of knowing it's NOW or NEVER. This was the issue with pvp, it sucks and is not fun to deal with.

To me all of this reads like you're not suited for PVP, which is not a problem in of itself. Stop assuming this is work for me or a problematic experience. Some people are fine with grinding and it's very popular in Japan.

And what does fun mean? So you want to object me to your standard of what that is which you feel is equivalent of real life work. That's subjective. And you've good a life good, so do I. Does it make my claim any less valid? Does it take away from what I say?

You are incredibly condescending. Most of what you say isn't even a problem, but to imply I have no life because I enjoy having a bit of work attached to my rewards is childish at best. Not everyone is suited for everything. If your attempts are futile and simply don't amount to anything; maybe you're not cut out for it. There's no shame in admitting that, and for me it's crafting. Does that mean I get to dictate people's opinions that crafting is essentially work?

I have written this somewhere else but PVP is not for everyone. It's the reason some people never try it and that's alright.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

SNIP.

My last mmo revolved solely around PvP, I was in a hardcore pvp guild, I could spend an entire day just killing other players quite happily. Everything you did in that game was to get better gear to be stronger for said pvp, I am well suited to PvP but the pvp in this game felt god awful to me, tab target pvp is a nightmare when there are dozens of characters. I still hope for a decent action combat pvp based mmo to role around someday, new world sure ain't it for me. It's fine for it not to be work for you, I grinded 100 hours for ONE LEVEL in my old mmo and I was quite content doing it, though I had a lot more time back then since I was only in school. Nevermind upgrading my accessories which blew up upon failure..
But as Yoshida said this community is overall more suited to casual content, 'work' in an mmo context means dozens of hours typically and that does not constitute casual in the least. If you only have a couple hours a day to play and you wanted the pvp stuff, well you are shit out of luck and that is unacceptable. I didn't complain about the huge grind in my old mmo as I knew that pvp and a more grindy competitive style was what I was getting into, not so with ff! It is vastly more casual friendly and the pvp was the main thing out of wack in that sense.

I said wanting some effort is fine, but to try and suggest that others need to adhere to your standard is not so fine. I had same in my old game, players thought that purely because they dumped an ass load of time in meant they should be respected and all dev choices going forward should be made with that thought in mind at the cost of new players.

Some people didn't try ff pvp because it had a rep for being bad, others did try and hated the clusterf*ck of frontlines, myself being one of them though I did enjoy the 8v8v8 before they removed it. Feast was so hard for me to even find as a new player nevermind get into and learn to go for high ranks. It was just a thing suddenly on my duty list and I had no idea what it was about and the game didn't tell me wtf it was either. I later learned it had the competitive mode but trying to find people was difficult and when I learned unless I was willing to deal with a massive grind, cheating and RMT then I shouldn't hold my breathe. Grind, cheats and RMT all have NOTHING to do with pvp, not wanting to participate in those things does not make me "not suited" for pvp it makes me not suited for tedious, frustrating crap... It's not even an enjoyable grind when you have to deal with win traders now is it?? I sat for hours in arena just dueling, there was no grind there just 1v1 tests of skill. No cheating as we would match our gearscore to each other it was true competition to see who was best not who could sink the most time in.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Yeah this would be very sad. It does sound like they will include the old rewards with the sentence “various loot from the feast will return” and the context kind of hints that way.
I wouldn’t have put so much effort in if I knew this either. I really tried very hard for my feast rewards so will be really sad to see players get them in a much more casual way. They don’t have ultimates unsync or the weapons for tomes so why would people be able to get the rewards by not even doing the same game mode? Seriously annoying

Ultimates is not limited to 100 people getting rewards per server. There is a big difference they are not really comparable at all in my eyes. The rewards drove you to try hard the pvp but it put a good chunk of people to not touching it at all because of how toxic it is, encouraging cheating, greedy players to hoarde rewards and unhealthy playstyle. You can get your ultimate rewards in a casual manner.. not so for pvp if you were new and trying to get into it. End of the day you got to have those rewards for YEARS and have the "I have what you don't nya" experience. Screwing over the literal millions of players for the sake of a couple thousand seems a bad move to me..