Penalty for watching cutscene

[Iscah]

Hmm, recently I ditched an MSQ cutscene in Shadowbringers in favour of a queue pop, it was ready for reset when I returned. Perhaps it's not applicable for all of them? Would be odd.

It is indeed odd. Sometimes you can accept the duty mid-cutscene, so the cutscene doesn't get marked complete and you can rewatch it from the start once you come out of the duty. But other times, even if you're the same class that you signed up to queue with, you get an error when you try to accept – from memory, something about "cannot use the duty finder while occupied" or something like that.

I've been trying to make a list of them when they happen, to see if there's a pattern. Perhaps it's cutscenes that behave in some particular way.

[Fyrebrand]

It is indeed odd. Sometimes you can accept the duty mid-cutscene, so the cutscene doesn't get marked complete and you can rewatch it from the start once you come out of the duty. But other times, even if you're the same class that you signed up to queue with, you get an error when you try to accept – from memory, something about "cannot use the duty finder while occupied" or something like that.

I've been trying to make a list of them when they happen, to see if there's a pattern. Perhaps it's cutscenes that behave in some particular way.

Could it perhaps be the cutscenes that you can't skip because at some point there is a dialogue choice you have to make? Or perhaps one of those longer sequences where even if you skip, it immediately plays another scene right after? Or maybe one of those scenes where your character is actually removed from the map and placed somewhere else afterward, so in the meantime you kind of don't exist anywhere.

[Iscah]

That's what I thought initially, but you could be DPS #1 in queue and another healer could still queue into Roulette system, which implies your queue should pop next. But... you don't always get your duty popped. Thus, you aren't actually "#1" in the queue, rather in the list of "#1 in queue".

A better example is to look at it is how multiple individuals can be in the DPS solo queue in trials and be "#1 in queue" because each trial takes the next 4 trial roulette players.

That sounds very unlikely to me. It's still a queue. You don't give four people "#1 in queue" status; you take #1-#4 when it's time to assemble the party. Otherwise what happens when the system is trying to recruit three DPS to fill someone's queue? They don't all have equal priority. The first three eligible people will be taken.

Your initial logic doesn't make sense to me. You have no way of knowing when a healer queues into the roulette, so why assume this system of multiple #1s over simply being at the front of the queue while either the healer or tank queue is currently empty?

[AnotherPerson]

That sounds very unlikely to me. It's still a queue. You don't give four people "#1 in queue" status; you take #1-#4 when it's time to assemble the party. Otherwise what happens when the system is trying to recruit three DPS to fill someone's queue? They don't all have equal priority. The first three eligible people will be taken.

Your initial logic doesn't make sense to me. You have no way of knowing when a healer queues into the roulette, so why assume this system of multiple #1s over simply being at the front of the queue while either the healer or tank queue is currently empty?

Sure you can, just have a healer friend solo queue up while you're in #1 DPS queue. If the healer queue pops but yours doesn't, it means you didn't get your queue popped even if you were at the top of the list for the same roulette. It meant another tank and healer filled the queue for another group - implying you didn't meet the requirements to join or the DPS slots were filled up. Now, if you did unlock all the duties, that shouldn't be the case, hinting that there's more priorities for "#1 in queue" slot. Now, when we zoom this out and take into consideration the number of extra priorities in a massive scale for every player queueing up, you would have to separate them into another group to categorize them.

[Iscah]

Sure you can, just have a healer friend solo queue up while you're in #1 DPS queue. If the healer queue pops but yours doesn't, it means you didn't get your queue popped even if you were at the top of the list for the same roulette.

I think you are overlooking a very big factor here: the roulette exists primarily to create a pool of players that can be used to assemble a party when someone directly queues for a dungeon.

Your healer friend would have most likely been recruited to join a party that already had both DPS slots filled by people waiting in a specific dungeon queue.