Can SQ-EN draw a line in the sand w/ 3rd Parties?

[Saraide]

My big question is, why isn't the line ZERO, just like the subscriber contract says it is?

Do we really want to be in a world where the dev's are designing based on the assumption that tools will be used, and thus those that don't use them get a short stick experiance?

If the line is 0 you will no longer be able to use discord, you will no longer be able to use excel for BiS calculations (which you probably arent doing but other people are for you), you will no longer be able to have an mmo mouse with extra buttons, you will no longer have videos about the game (looking through vods makes it far easier to see what went wrong in a wipe). Those are all third party tools. That line is a stupid line to draw as it doesnt address what's important and that is that you're not allowed to harass people. If you use a parser to harass someone over their dps you get punished, if you use a parser to see where you can improve your own damage output then you are not punished because you are not causing any trouble.

How much admiration the community gives to people with savage or ulti clears is on the community.

I don't get your point.




I see this conversation as going nowhere since we're both speaking from different points of view. The other programs are "harmful" because they give an advantage to some people over others (PS players) and automate a task that was meant to be done by humans. Programs that help people communicate or make the game look better aren't the same as these. Next thing you know, people would be defending the use of bots.

You bringing up how people could just call out stuff via ingame chat instead of talking over discord is the exact same logic as some people in this thread saying how you can just have your raidleader call mechanics instead of cactbot. In both cases the third party tool (discord/cactbot) are stronger than the strictly ingame options.