Summoner is a Final Fantasy 14 summoner (not a warlock wow clone)

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The difference is you presumably can just straight up skip entire minor summon phases.

You can't if you want to Summon the avatars back to back due to Attunements locking them out, something I've always disliked in a DPS rotation, but here it at least halfway makes sense since it's meant to mask the ghosting issues and ensure you don't dump yourself. You can rush to Demi-Summons after a single avatar and be fine. This is mostly irrelevant, however, as my concern with that remains unchanged in either case.

Most of the damage is in the Demis, and the problem with pet interaction is that, having not changed it, clipping things because the pet wants to do something else and is on cooldown is a problem I will never tolerate when that pet has important abilities on it. It sucks having to cast aetherpact, wait for the pet to finally be ready to cast the buff, and have to delay other mechanics because it's powdering its nose.

The only hardclip I can think of was due to Phoenix casting Everlasting Flight, which wasn't even necessary all the time. Heavensward Summoner had some of it but honestly it was at least halfway enjoyable given the Trance window was such a highlight to begin with. But I personally would rather hardclip than do nothing at all. Flamethrower, anyone?

That said, I'm not referring to the Gemstone/Attunement parts of those phases (though it's somewhat relevant if shoddy solution to a number of problems, summons last long enough for Attunements to be an issue when you're trying to execute your rotation around 15-25s periods of downtime). I'm assuming that's the part being skipped in order to focus on the actual issue. The part that becomes a problem because it's a significant gain is Summoning one of the Avatars if you have the ability to do so. You know, the 700 potency GCD that plays the big dumb animation then goes away, effectively summoning twice within a single GCD window. My problem it's it creates the potential for pet ghosting. Nothing else. If they didn't fix that then we have a big problem with going from those into a Demi Summon while trying to use Devotion inbetween, straight up. You'll be coming out of a window where you're gonna want to late weave and go into a window where you want to early weave. That either forces strict timing, a single GCD delay, or you have to shift Devotion ahead of both and risk losing two out of three.

oGCD Demi-Summons is what lets you fix those pet ghosting issues. The amount of nonsense you need to do to compensate for that fits within that one GCD gap if that is the case, but you could have more security and lower downtime punishment with oGCD Avatars as well. Overall, I remain unconvinced that removing Carbuncle's auto attacks fixed that particular problem. Changing the damage portion is only relevant to the oGCD discusion if you care about how much burst those Avatars hit for in relation to your own damage output, something that has been heavily criticized about Summoner's full-on pet iterations in the past despite the new avatars contribute much less than the old pets overall when you actually run the numbers and therefore mean it was a key component to keeping the dps of those Summoners relevant.

Or, to put it another way, the average PPS of both ifrit and garuda is about 184 and 187 per second at current known potency values. Titan is at closer to 200 or 220 and is a definite outlier. Ruin 3 is a paltry 124. So as long as you're not dumping the minor summons for more ruin 3s, there isn't a problem in downtime clipping it. Provided you also can go into a demi phase.

I think you're missing the point that this is about a pet AI issue first rather than a DPS issue. I get how the rotation works. It's why I'm apphrensive about it. I'm gonna let the rest of this post slide rather than muddy the focus when I've given my thoughts to you on some of those opinions in your BLM thread. tl;dr is downtime doesn't bother me. Ghosting does.