Sage quick mechanics overview

[WaxSw]

I think a good way to "fix" toxicon would be the following:

1st: Increase its potency to be more powerful than dosis, not too much so at 2 targets it doesn't become better than using dykrasia twice (so our aoe rotation doesn't become shield->toxicon) but enough to be dps neutral at that point so around 450-455 potency with 50% falloff

2nd: Make Phelgma and Rizomata give addersting. Phelgma to incentivize its use even more and give the job a bigger flavour of dps healer and because its a skill introduced very early meaning it could be upgraded in a natural way as soon as toxicon is unlocked and rizomata to be able to be comparable with recitation as giving only addersgall makes it feel kinda flat.

3rd (maybe): Give a trait that for X amount of Addersgall generated it creates one addersting. However this would require us to not be able to generate Addersgall out of combat as it may cause long pull countdowns and it may potentially give too many free toxicons

[Iedarus]

SCH functionally breaks without a way to dump Aetherflow stacks as we found out at the beginning of ShB. Fey Union directly feeds off of Aetherflow usage. Dissipation generates extra Aetherflow stacks. Without Energy Drain or healing demands that require that much Aetherflow usage, SCH does not work. I know because I was there.

Aetherflow is SCH's core mechanic and also its core issue. With SGE having a similar mechanic, I'd rather SCH get reworked to have something else.

That's what I was saying. There needs to be another way to dump unneeded stacks.

[Iedarus]

I think a good way to "fix" toxicon would be the following:

1st: Increase its potency to be more powerful than dosis, not too much so at 2 targets it doesn't become better than using dykrasia twice (so our aoe rotation doesn't become shield->toxicon) but enough to be dps neutral at that point so around 450-455 potency with 50% falloff

2nd: Make Phelgma and Rizomata give addersting. Phelgma to incentivize its use even more and give the job a bigger flavour of dps healer and because its a skill introduced very early meaning it could be upgraded in a natural way as soon as toxicon is unlocked and rizomata to be able to be comparable with recitation as giving only addersgall makes it feel kinda flat.

3rd (maybe): Give a trait that for X amount of Addersgall generated it creates one addersting. However this would require us to not be able to generate Addersgall out of combat as it may cause long pull countdowns and it may potentially give too many free toxicons

I think what they should have done, now that I've seen other peoples' thoughts, was make Toxicon I and II separate abilities and make Toxicon I have 660 potency for single target, only, and Toxicon II be a 340 potency AoE with no drop off. On top of that, both of those abilities should cost 600 mana. That way, you would be ensured to remain DPS neutral by being able to use GCDs without losing potency while not being able to just spam shields and Toxicon and have a net gain with trash mobs.

[QooEr]

On top of that, both of those abilities should cost 600 mana. That way, you would be ensured to remain DPS neutral by being able to use GCDs without losing potency while not being able to just spam shields and Toxicon and have a net gain with trash mobs.

Toxicon should absolutely not cost any MP. Sage already has the second worst MP economy of the healers, and using eukrasian diagnosis costs 600 more mp than dosis or dyskrasia. Even at 0 MP E. Diagnosis + Toxicon use more MP than what two Dosis would've used.

Personally i think just making toxicon ogcd solves almost all of its issues, but i suppose it staying a gcd alleviates the MP cost of getting an addersting stack a little bit.

[ty_taurus]

Toxicon should absolutely not cost any MP. Sage already has the second worst MP economy of the healers, and using eukrasian diagnosis costs 600 more mp than dosis or dyskrasia. Even at 0 MP E. Diagnosis + Toxicon use more MP than what two Dosis would've used.

Personally i think just making toxicon ogcd solves almost all of its issues, but i suppose it staying a gcd alleviates the MP cost of getting an addersting stack a little bit.

I' personally prefer it get a potency buff to 660 and stay on the GCD since that gives a bit more divergence from Dosis spam, but that's a very close 2nd place alternative for me.