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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    Serious question, do you do Savage?
    You can simply check their logs tbh
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

  2. #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    What fights in any of the ShB tiers have you done that have had so much going wrong/going on mechanically in the first 60 seconds that you feel the need to hold Dissipation? Are you pugging via PF?
    I've only ever pugged Savage and I've never had these problems within the first 60 seconds, especially when you need to be contributing as much DPS as you can within buff windows to ensure you're not hitting enrage at the end of a fight.
    Tons think about anything that can go wrong like deaths etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    Or maybe it's just right? Spamming broil is extremely fun, it's a satisfying spell to land something like Jhin 4th shot, and once EW comes it won't be so boring for people like you since you can weave your optimal dps ED in it.
    God damn... who hurt you?
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeolE View Post
    God damn... who hurt you?
    Idk, maybe I just prefer broil to John madden or 5.0 smn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaxSw View Post
    You can simply check their logs tbh
    To be fair, I've only got uploaded logs for my E5S clear, so it's very possible they could not have any, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    Tons think about anything that can go wrong like deaths etc
    Can you name me any specific fights in any Eden (Savage) tier that you've done where this is the case? That's what I'm asking, not what CAN go wrong, but fights where these sort of things are happening immediately.
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    To be fair, I've only got uploaded logs for my E5S clear, so it's very possible they could not have any, but...


    Can you name me any specific fights in any Eden (Savage) tier that you've done where this is the case? That's what I'm asking, not what CAN go wrong, but fights where these sort of things are happening immediately.
    Sadly no, I missed this savage tier when it was hot, and since none of the gear is worth it anymore there is no point in doing it. I'll be doing 6.0 thought when it comes out first week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    Sadly no, I missed this savage tier when it was hot, and since none of the gear is worth it anymore there is no point in doing it. I'll be doing 6.0 thought when it comes out first week.
    Okay so you're saying you missed EVERY tier in Eden, when you just previously just told me that you do Savage? You've also previously stated that you quit healing at level 12 in 2.0, and you came back for 5.0 on it. So are you healing Savage in Shadowbringers or not?
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    Okay so you're saying you missed EVERY tier in Eden, when you just previously just told me that you do Savage? You've also previously stated that you quit healing at level 12 in 2.0, and you came back for 5.0 on it. So are you healing Savage in Shadowbringers or not?
    Did SB savage, not SHB didn't realize how content was released so after I cleared the extreme trials in SHB, I quit to go play league for a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    Did SB savage, not SHB didn't realize how content was released so after I cleared the extreme trials in SHB, I quit to go play league for a long time.
    Okay, so you're talking about 3-4 year old content, that you presumably also did not heal based on previous comments, when everyone else is discussing the game currently. You haven't done Savage as a healer in Shadowbringers, yet you're saying things like the Scholar opener is a "noob trap", saying you need to hold aetherflow for things "hitting the fan", and that there's no reason to "pretend to be a DPS" when the fights in Eden demand that you do high DPS or you won't clear.
    Do you understand how this can cause frustration with you when you talk authoritatively on content you're not doing/haven't done? You don't know what it's like to play a healer in Savage in 5.x, yet you're telling all of us that we're wrong not only in how we're saying to play the job, but also that we're wrong in feeling like it's unfulfilling and is incredibly monotonous. You're making up scenarios about Savage and then you're telling us, the people who have done the content, that we're wrong and that your understanding of the job is better than those who play it at a higher level?
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  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    Okay, so you're talking about 3-4 year old content, that you presumably also did not heal based on previous comments, when everyone else is discussing the game currently. You haven't done Savage as a healer in Shadowbringers, yet you're saying things like the Scholar opener is a "noob trap", saying you need to hold aetherflow for things "hitting the fan", and that there's no reason to "pretend to be a DPS" when the fights in Eden demand that you do high DPS or you won't clear.
    Do you understand how this can cause frustration with you when you talk authoritatively on content you're not doing/haven't done? You don't know what it's like to play a healer in Savage in 5.x, yet you're telling all of us that we're wrong not only in how we're saying to play the job, but also that we're wrong in feeling like it's unfulfilling and is incredibly monotonous. You're making up scenarios about Savage and then you're telling us, the people who have done the content, that we're wrong and that your understanding of the job is better than those who play it at a higher level?
    What I'm saying is that, its obvious that in higher content, or rather the better a player you are, gear etc that you will have to heal less. What I'm saying is I get that "raiders" are bored from broil spam, but the game isn't meant to just cater to raiders only type players, who are obsessed with their parsing in all content. If adding more healing [mechanics/buttons] makes it too hard for the non raiders it shouldn't be considered. And for the record yes, I could do savage this tier if I wanted to, except its not worth it right now since gear isn't worth it. I'll 100% be doing it though in 6.0 seeing as I'm interested now that I understand how patches flow in this game.
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