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    Player VictoriaLuv's Avatar
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    Underrstanding Endwalker white-mage -

    Aquaveil - this is targetable defensive cooldown


    note you can combo this already existing abilities. it may not seem strong on paper but actually it pretty awesome actually.


    Aquaveil + divine benison - this is good mix

    Aquaveil + Asylum + regen + medica II

    Aquaveil + Temperance + Asylum + regen + medica II

    over all this is total 25% damage reduction. 20% increased healing with full regen effects active. with in this given time limit during big pulls you can use holy 2 without seeing your tank drop below 50 mid cast. in raiding it has different effect

    Aquaveil + Temperance on tank on team during a big damage or vs tank buster. help your tank out

    Aquaveil + Divine Bansion + lilybell
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    Aquaveil - this is targetable defensive cooldown


    note you can combo this already existing abilities. it may not seem strong on paper but actually it pretty awesome actually.


    Aquaveil + divine benison - this is good mix

    Aquaveil + Asylum + regen + medica II

    Aquaveil + Temperance + Asylum + regen + medica II

    over all this is total 25% damage reduction. 20% increased healing with full regen effects active. with in this given time limit during big pulls you can use holy 2 without seeing your tank drop below 50 mid cast. in raiding it has different effect

    Aquaveil + Temperance on tank on team during a big damage or vs tank buster. help your tank out

    Aquaveil + Divine Bansion + lilybell
    Does this mean you're admitting your first post about the "leaks" was in fact a lie? Since Aquaveil never came up in that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laphicet View Post
    Does this mean you're admitting your first post about the "leaks" was in fact a lie? Since Aquaveil never came up in that one.
    That would be a first for Victoria.
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    Something I would like to see be done for WHM is for Fluid Aura, Stoneskin and Divine Veil to be reworked and return as low level versions of Aqua Veil, Divine Benison and Temperance respectively because I'm tired of healing tanks that can't be bothered using any mitigation at all and makes low level content miserable to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    Something I would like to see be done for WHM is for Fluid Aura, Stoneskin and Divine Veil to be reworked and return as low level versions of Aqua Veil, Divine Benison and Temperance respectively because I'm tired of healing tanks that can't be bothered using any mitigation at all and makes low level content miserable to do.
    It's always bugged me that they have a perfectly good trait system in this game and don't do more things like this. Such changes serve to get healers used to certain types of abilities at much lower levels, rather than, say - suddenly having Sacred Soil change its entire functionality at level 78. Nope, instead lets delete Fluid Aura entirely and just leave another job quest with no ability learned.

    WHM's ARR healing kit is miserable as it is and it can very easily go OOM before 52. Ahriman in WoD is an excellent example of what happens to ARR WHM MP when you only Cure 2 tanks, Medica II every raidwide, and have raises to deal with. Hell you don't even need raises to feel it if you're doing the bulk of MT healing.
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    Last edited by Erakir; 10-21-2021 at 02:26 AM.

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    Ah yes, you can make big overheal combos that almost no content in the game will require. Sounds like typical WHM. Similar to the people who used to think it was the "king of healing" because of your 10 seconds of overheal glory in a tiny radius with Thin Air + Plenary + Cure III, while AST just rolled along healing most content for free while spamming Malefic the entire time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Ah yes, you can make big overheal combos that almost no content in the game will require. Sounds like typical WHM. Similar to the people who used to think it was the "king of healing" because of your 10 seconds of overheal glory in a tiny radius with Thin Air + Plenary + Cure III, while AST just rolled along healing most content for free while spamming Malefic the entire time.
    That kind of healing power saves life’s sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    That kind of healing power saves life’s sometimes.
    ...How? Parties make mistakes, yes. They stand in things they shouldn't. Goes without saying. None of this changes the fact that AOE damage in this game is so infrequent that Thin Air Plenary Cure 3 spamming is never, never necessary. There is one single phase in UWU where I've come close, and I still cast Stones between those Cure 3 casts. Scenarios where a group of people take damage back to back so fast that they require Cure 3 spamming by accident don't exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    ...How? Parties make mistakes, yes. They stand in things they shouldn't. Goes without saying. None of this changes the fact that AOE damage in this game is so infrequent that Thin Air Plenary Cure 3 spamming is never, never necessary. There is one single phase in UWU where I've come close, and I still cast Stones between those Cure 3 casts. Scenarios where a group of people take damage back to back so fast that they require Cure 3 spamming by accident don't exist.
    If cure 3 was bigger then it could be spammed more but sadly its so small it's not really viable as an aoe heal.
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    The sole situation I can think of where I've gotten value out of Thin Air Cure 3 (+Medica II>I spam) was doing O4S Almagests without a shield healer with some friends.

    Outside of then? I've never found value in that and it's not for lack of trying =( Thin Air's value has always been in either wipe recovery (which it will still offer to some degree) or situations like Timults where you've got sustained AoE over more than a couple of seconds that's too significant to hand wave away with Asylum/Soil etc.

    Rereleasing Fluid Aura as a low level version of also makes quite a lot of sense to me. WHM is in the strange situation where it's mostly regarded as the brute force no frills HPS healer, yet DS getting rebadged as Temperance has it actually struggling for 'oh s**t' options at lower levels. +1 to that suggestion.
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  11. 10-21-2021 06:25 AM
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    In retrospect, my comment here didn't add much to the discussion, so I decided to remove it. Keeping some other replies thoug

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