SE are leaving BLM to rot by giving SMN and RDM even more utility

[Mortex]

Blm will do ofc more dmg then any other caster but it’s gonna be like right now, in some fights blm and smn will be pretty close dmg wise. And what a lot of people don’t talk about is thatsummoner has 2 free ogcd heals in Phoenix (a 700 potency group heal is nothing to sneeze about and a single target heal with 1200 potency is also pretty nuts, not forcing the healer to gcd heal In way more situations and increasing group dps because of this).

[zcrash970]

Blm will do ofc more dmg then any other caster but it’s gonna be like right now, in some fights blm and smn will be pretty close dmg wise. And what a lot of people don’t talk about is thatsummoner has 2 free ogcd heals in Phoenix (a 700 potency group heal is nothing to sneeze about and a single target heal with 1200 potency is also pretty nuts, not forcing the healer to gcd heal In way more situations and increasing group dps because of this).

Actually the heals are pretty much pointless outside of solo play. Healing in this is excruciating simple and most of the time an oGCD heal will cover dmg. Not to mention you can only use this during Phoenix.
Soooo...yeah. kinda pointless to count on or consider it.


EDIT: You literally played astro in raid and pulled off good parsers. You should know this

[wereotter]

Blm will do ofc more dmg then any other caster but it’s gonna be like right now, in some fights blm and smn will be pretty close dmg wise. And what a lot of people don’t talk about is thatsummoner has 2 free ogcd heals in Phoenix (a 700 potency group heal is nothing to sneeze about and a single target heal with 1200 potency is also pretty nuts, not forcing the healer to gcd heal In way more situations and increasing group dps because of this).

The phoenix heal in Endwalker, just like now, is flavor, not utility. You aren't holding onto firebird trance until the party really needs that medica 2 to go out because you're losing damage. As a healer, I'm sure its nice if it happens to align with phases where the party is taking a lot of damage, but really not something you can ever rely on.

[rewd]

The phoenix heal in Endwalker, just like now, is flavor, not utility. You aren't holding onto firebird trance until the party really needs that medica 2 to go out because you're losing damage. As a healer, I'm sure its nice if it happens to align with phases where the party is taking a lot of damage, but really not something you can ever rely on.

Everlasting Flight already lines up with damage more often than not. On top of that, you have much more flexibility now, considering you have a 15 sec window to weave Rekindle and an additional 30 sec window for either damage to bring your target under 50% health or for the regen to start ticking down. It's absurd to write it off as "flavor".

[lulunami]

Everlasting Flight already lines up with damage more often than not. On top of that, you have much more flexibility now, considering you have a 15 sec window to weave Rekindle and an additional 30 sec window for either damage to bring your target under 50% health or for the regen to start ticking down. It's absurd to write it off as "flavor".

You use Phoenix about every 110 seconds currently on SMN. Despite that healing from Phoenix, healers are not really planning that into their healing timeline. The difference between a player living or dying is not going to be dependent upon Phoenix's heal. The other healing tools from two healers and other mitigation options will overshadow the healing from Phoenix.

[rewd]

You use Phoenix about every 110 seconds currently on SMN. Despite that healing from Phoenix, healers are not really planning that into their healing timeline. The difference between a player living or dying is not going to be dependent upon Phoenix's heal. The other healing tools from two healers and other mitigation options will overshadow the healing from Phoenix.

None of this makes it "flavor" and not utility, that's still an absurd thing to state. If you want to be more precise, you'd call it situational utility (like other abilities in the game).

Great healers will take Phoenix's hefty heal into consideration when/if possible and adjust accordingly. Less than great healers won't, but that's also why they are less than great.

A player living or dying won't depend on Mantra, Minne or RDM's barrier either, it still doesn't make them flavor and not "real utility".

[lulunami]

None of this makes it "flavor" and not utility, that's still an absurd thing to state. If you want to be more precise, you'd call it situational utility (like other abilities in the game).

Great healers will take Phoenix's hefty heal into consideration when/if possible and adjust accordingly. Less than great healers won't, but that's also why they are less than great.

A player living or dying won't depend on Mantra, Minne or RDM's barrier either, it still doesn't make them flavor and not "real utility".

Maybe if a healer is trying to get a 100 parse in Ultimate. Mapping Everlasting Flight to the timeline in order for two healers to get 99 parse together is not required. You have to understand that healers have too many healing tools that trivialize content to just Glare and Broil.

[zcrash970]

Everlasting Flight already lines up with damage more often than not. On top of that, you have much more flexibility now, considering you have a 15 sec window to weave Rekindle and an additional 30 sec window for either damage to bring your target under 50% health or for the regen to start ticking down. It's absurd to write it off as "flavor".

That's literally saying "let me pop this mitigation cd. There's damage"
Damage is almost always going out in this game. Just because it heals slight damage doesn't make it useful.